Aug Wow, even I didn’t see this one coming! Due to an extra step in QA testing to enhance the community features in the game, the release of LAIR, originally set for August 14th, has changed to September 4, 2007. Natural challenges that arose while finalizing the offline game to include key online features – such as leaderboards and medal systems – have led to the difficult choice of pushing back the release date. We appreciate everyone’s excitement and patience for the game and look forward to its release on September 4.
Related Post: Inside the Developers Studio: Julian Eggebrecht
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+ LoTuZ on August 2nd, 2007 at 8:48 pm said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought this summer wouldnt be a shut out. I guess it is a shutout. Once again, a slow summer for gamers, well, at least for me. This sux but I will be buying it the day its finally released. I look forward to dragon flying!
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+ Lezerith on August 2nd, 2007 at 8:52 pm said:
same here
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+ bobtheduck on August 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pm said:
Lame… If it came down to “community features” it should have been a downloadable upgrade… Not holding the game back again… August was the PS3′s salvation, and now you’re making the drought even worse…
Seriously, this is getting annoying…
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+ ShadyDevil on August 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pm said:
I didn’t read thru the other 450 so comments cuz im new but it was shocking news that a lot of games recently have been getting pushed back. GTA,Stranglehold, Blacksite, Lair, among others. I am very dissapointed to a certain extent. I hope the few rumors i heard about Warhawk possibly being pushed were false. My question is, are the achievements related to HOME im assuming they are and if so is it so complicated a process it couldnt have been done with an online update of some sort like built into firmware. Thanks and I hope that early review from EGM doesnt discourage anyone from buyin this almost sure to be great game.
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+ spyder9917 on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 am said:
I just have one question. ok… If it is a simple QA prob with leaderboards and medals, why can it not be fixed by a simple update via download. Just curious… kinda makes it seem if it’s a problem like that it should be no problem to fix and not a 3 week push back.. very upsetting for a lot of people i know for it to be pushed back. Especially since Heavenly Sword is out soon after. It will definately screw up sales if people didn’t aready have preordered lair.
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+ HK-48 on August 3rd, 2007 at 1:17 am said:
Sony, Sony, Sony. At first I was mad about this, but now I have come back down to Earth and I reconngnize the fact that it will be for the better. But the fact of the matter is is that Lair, Warhawk, and HS are way to close together. But you can’t delay them again or you will alienate your fanbase. Pull forward the release dates slightly to give your fans good news and to keep them happy, or at the very least keep them on track. Give us good content on the Network until these games can get released.
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+ VozrotH on August 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 am said:
Wow whats up with the delays? Blacksite and GTA have also been delayed.
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+ Gadbury on August 3rd, 2007 at 8:30 am said:
Release dates should be taken with a pinch of salt. |The trick is not to arrange your life around a release date! =) Games that release bang on the date are usually rubbish games i.e Movie cash-ins. Games are always being pushed back, its nothing new.
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+ LordNistud on August 3rd, 2007 at 8:53 am said:
When are we gonna see a Lair Demo on PSN?
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+ DaChinPin on August 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 am said:
awheathen
“@DaChinPin
Personally I don’t understand when you guy say Sony lied. When did Sony lie? When it can close for Lair to come out the game wasn’t read. If the game wasn’t ready, the game was ready. PERIOD”
If you think Sony doesn’t lie you’re dumb. First the PS3 ‘price drop’ was a bait and switch. Now the Lair game ‘goes into manufacturing’ just to be cancelled and delayed again. Now tell me if that’s not lieng to every fans’ face?
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+ TristanMike on August 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 am said:
@ sarshelYam
I don’t know which logic you’re having trouble with, I wish you had of elaborated. But if I may, I think you are speculating….or assuming about the cause of delay and giving them more credit than they deserve….we’ve been lied to before, and there’s a possibility we’re being lied to now. For all we know, they aren’t fixing anything, for all we know, last week was a lie just to “tide us over”….see what lies do to your fanbase ? they (the fanbase) start mistrusting you, it’s hard to believe someone when they are pathological liar.
And the point isn’t the amount of the delay, I couldn’t care less, but the fact that almost every thing Sony has “promised” us, has been delayed. Why bother with telling people a release date in the first place ? Why not just say, “We’re working on getting it out to you as quick as possible without sacrificing the quality of the game.” There, nice little truthful statement, it would tide me over.
Also, companies seem so definitive when they announce the date, like it IS set in stone, they even enforce it in interviews, but then they come around and say, “Nah, that wasn’t the REAL release date, here it is” and 7/10 times, that’s not the REAL release date either.
What the hell is the point of a “Release Date” in the first place then ? Developers and Publishers should keep their big mouths shut and let us speculate. They shouldn’t announce a release date, until the thing goes to press……wait……that doesn’t work ether, dang !
I see many peoples’ points, but I’ve worked in a few pressure industries, and delays, though they happen, are never good, and someone always pays more and usually the consumer pays less…but in this industry, it’s the opposite, the consumer pays more, and the industry sits back and laughs at the apathy of gamers.
Also, not to labor the point, but if it was simple leaderboards, etc. then, as it has been suggested many times, why couldn’t that have been patched ? I too am tired of my “Delay-Station 3″
Sony, I love you, and do try and stand behind you, but lately I don’t know…..give us back our faith.
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+ DaChinPin on August 3rd, 2007 at 9:38 am said:
Tristanmike
I’m behind you 100%. If Warhawk gets pushed back I’ll be buying a 360 to tide me over and give my PS3 to my little brother. I’m sick of delays and false promises. Sony was only being kept fans quiet because of the August-September line-up which supposedly caters to everyone, but now every one of those games are being pushed back. I hope Warhawk doesn’t get pushed back like Lair. If it does screw the delaystation 3. From now on I’ll do everything to keep my friends from doing the same mistake I did by buying this $660 heater. Next-generation you’ll lose billions more at launch because noone will want to be early adopters you dumbasses.
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+ ShadowBlade on August 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 am said:
sony come on man i pre-order this a week ago and now it delayed. Sony, i been a sony fan since the first ps1 and you guy made the best game, by next year i will like to see those best games that been hiding for months in my Ps3 next year.
Psfanboy forever!
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+ Spaceghost4284 on August 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 am said:
I am so done with this game. Not only am I hearing about bad reviews but now the game is once again delayed. What was once my most anticipated title just lost itself a purchaser. I’ll buy Warhawk and Heavenly Sword instead.
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+ Scarecrow on August 3rd, 2007 at 11:38 am said:
Take your time.
This will make the game better, that’s all I care ’bout.
Can’t wait.
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+ DaChinPin on August 3rd, 2007 at 11:41 am said:
@Scarecrow
That’s all you care about? You don’t even care that the only game that’s fun is RFOM? A console which has at best 3 games that are good….? I’m sorry but I’d be pissed if I wasted $660 at something which isn’t being used for anything.
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+ Leo856 on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 pm said:
Well, so long as it makes the game better, I don’t care how long it’s delayed (within reason). If it increases the quality of the product, then, by all means delay it for as long as they need.
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+ DangerMouse on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 pm said:
“Why not just say, “We’re working on getting it out to you as quick as possible without sacrificing the quality of the game.””
Because you guys keep [DELETED] for them to tell you dates. You can’t have it both ways.
“That’s all you care about? You don’t even care that the only game that’s fun is RFOM?”
Why not? Why wouldn’t his only concern be Lair being a great game if he’s going to buy it? I don’t know why they’d delay it for something like Leaderboards since everyone’s buying this for it’s epic single player action but it’s only 3 weeks. I’m waiting that long for Persona 3 so it’s not a big deal after you get over the initial shock. It’s not like gamers ever get good games in the summer, so it’s not a big surprise.
And RFOM is not the only fun game, what are you trying to pull. I’m enjoying the “good but average” JRPG Enchanted Arms and Motorstorm and Genji (the only thing bad is the camera, the game is still fun) and Ninja Gaiden Sigma ofcourse.
“I’m sorry but I’d be pissed if I wasted $660 at something which isn’t being used for anything.”
Well done fanboy, you’d be pissed if you had spent money huh. You don’t even own a PS3 and you’re mouthing off…way to troll the Playstation Blog, spend your money then you earn the right to mouth off. Go play whatever system you do have, or do you have so much free time because you don’t have any games to play on those?
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+ Loucifer on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm said:
@TristanMike
hmmmm…what the hell is the point of a release date you ask??…without one there wouldnt be much excitement and anticipation…but when you abuse the release date like what Sony and Developers have been doing from day #1, they(Sony, and even fans) have to expect the general public/fanbase to get pissed.
I’ve seen ALOT of good comments and bad comments with ALOT of people making REALLY valid points and some nonsense…bottomline is…
What will Sony do next to make us believe that they hear us and a change the delays?
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+ DangerMouse on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm said:
“I reiterate, the worst part is the same as the PS3 debacle. KKEPING MUM AND NOT INTERACTING AND COMMUNICATING WITH FANS = BAD DECISION. THAT IS WHAT A BLOG IS FOR AFTER ALL.”
They came out and said it was delayed a full 2 weeks in advance instead of waiting until a day or two before release despite knowing in advance of the delay now, I’d say that’s communicating pretty well, even when it’s bad news and not good news.
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+ Loucifer on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 pm said:
@DaChinPin
Valid point…BUT there are more then just 3 good games…i’m a shooters guy so i funny enough only own 3..Resistance, FEAR, RB6…but Ninja Gaiden is a really good game…so i’d say only like 4 good games….do i hear 5??…going once!…..going twice!
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+ DangerMouse on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm said:
I’ll add the “fun but by the book” JRPG Enchanted Arms to the list of enjoyable games as a JRPG fan.
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+ Loucifer on August 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm said:
@DaChinPin
I forgot to mention that you were wrong again!
I only spent $651.95 with tax not $660
AND!!!!!
I can also play movie trailers on mine
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+ spidemon on August 3rd, 2007 at 1:21 pm said:
Ok how many people out there agree with me that they title of this game should be change to “Liar”…..
I still love my ps3 though:0)
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+ Evazan on August 3rd, 2007 at 2:17 pm said:
Demo before release or Lair Bombs. The Choice is YOURS!
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+ Deviation on August 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm said:
“I’ll add the “fun but by the book” JRPG Enchanted Arms to the list of enjoyable games as a JRPG fan.”
As a JRPG fan, I can state without reservation that Enchanted Arms is garbage.
Save your money and buy Persona 3 when it comes out on August 14th. Remember, PS2 games play on your PS3.
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+ DaChinPin on August 3rd, 2007 at 4:57 pm said:
Deviation I might just buy it. How much is it going to be?
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+ DangerMouse on August 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 pm said:
I agree, Persona 3 is going to be fantastic and is definitely BY FAR the better choice.
Persona 3 comes out August 14th only in a special edition with a free soundtrack and artbook, for $50.
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+ Loucifer on August 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 pm said:
@Deviation
if i wanted to play PS2 games on my PS3 i would have saved the close to $700 price tag after sales tax obviously and just never bought the PS3 to begin with
THE PS2 SHOULD BE DISCONTINUED!!!!
BUT INSTEAD DISCONTINUES THE 20GB PS3 AND NOW 60GB PS3
SONY WHERE IS THE LOGIC????
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+ DaChinPin on August 3rd, 2007 at 6:13 pm said:
Loucifer
The money. The PS2 is still selling like crazy. They might even keep selling them after 10 year life cycle if they’re selling a lot. We might actually see the PS2 being supported until 2012. Now wouldn’t that be something?
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+ CommanderLander on August 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 pm said:
Hey guys! I am new to the blog and just wanted, in a sentence or two, introduce myself. I own a 360, Wii and PS3 and am a college student at Georgia Tech. I am currently playing Super Stardust HD like no other. Hopefully I can bring some unbiased insight and have some good conversations. Short and simple, now lets get to it…
Oh and my PSN ID is CommanderLander, so befriend me and lets compete on the friend leader boards. BTW, that name was not meant to be serious.
So I am reading everyone’s comments and the general consensus is that the demo will make or break this game. And I agree. Before the news of the EGM score, this was on top of my list. Now I am skeptic. If there is no demo released, count me out. If the Demo sucks, count me out.
So to Mr. Ryan Hamlyn… you have failed to capitalize on releasing your game during the “summer drought” period. Now, the reality of your situation is that you are releasing the game along side with Heavenly Sword and Warhawk. Good Luck, and I hope the game rocks, I really do.
On a positive note, holy crap the PS3 is looking good this August/September! The more I play Heavenly Sword the more I get excited. It could be huge, to the degree of GoW huge (come on 9.8/10 ign). Then pile on Lair and Warhawk… jeez. Maybe that will be enough to shut up my 360, who will not stop talking smack about Halo 3.
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+ intay on August 4th, 2007 at 5:39 am said:
so many delays -______-
come on sony bring on the games already
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+ Loucifer on August 4th, 2007 at 8:34 am said:
@DaChinPin
I KNOW DUDE…ITS SAD!!!!!!
MS killed the xbox when 360 came out…yea it sux to kill a system thats not yet lived out a complete life…
BUT EVERYONE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO GET THE 360 THEREFORE = HIGH 360 SALES
There are sacrifices to make when wanting to make money…but Sony is not making the necessary sacrifices and making all the wrong decisions
There is no incentive for PS2 owners to switch…no incentive for studios to make PS3 games…and with all the bad decision making skills all i have to say
If Sony is so concerned with PS2 sales…then the PS3 should NEVER have been released…
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+ Loucifer on August 4th, 2007 at 8:36 am said:
BTW this may be a bit off topic but EVERYONE should check out what the NY Post has it todays paper
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08042007/business/game_delay_batters_firm_business_brian_garrity.htm
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+ Ultimate on August 4th, 2007 at 8:49 am said:
YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! thank you im still downloading them. I cant wait to play them!
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+ Loucifer on August 4th, 2007 at 8:51 am said:
LOL…according to gamestop…now Uncharted & Heavenly sword pushed back 2 weeks
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+ TrailOfDead on August 4th, 2007 at 2:53 pm said:
Figures man wats with the Hardly any games being relesed or being delaid. Just hope its worth it cause im gettin a little bit miffed at sony and its lack of good games for this year. Hopefully when lair is acctually relesed it will be the turning point for the PS3! =) GL Sony
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+ Lezerith on August 4th, 2007 at 3:45 pm said:
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+ seph1r0th00 on August 4th, 2007 at 9:32 pm said:
I’m bummed that this game got delayed. But I hope whatever improvements you guys are making are worth the wait.
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+ Darkendless on August 4th, 2007 at 11:42 pm said:
Lair is a huge failure
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+ p-s-3 on August 5th, 2007 at 6:01 am said:
When PS4 comes out i dread 2 think how long a game is going 2 take 2 make!!! :-/ I’m sure(i hope!)this time next year there will be some top games out 4 PS3;)
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+ Half_life000111 on August 5th, 2007 at 1:18 pm said:
Hey if anyone wants to hook up on psn my name is Link01, message me if you like. Now as we all know Lair was delayed during the summer game drought. Not cool for us ps3 gamers. But still. We must be bright and optimistic in the sense that ya it was delayed but by the end of this month we won’t care because warhawk will shine in our homes, then next month Lair and Heavenly Sword will shine *ps3 sales will sky rocket and 360 fans will debate on buying a ps3*, then Home and Ratchet and Clank come bringing more joy. After this Haze, Unreal Tournament, and other killer apps will come to the table and then, of course we’ll all be broke and occupied with games by then with nothing to worry about, with no repetitive play (no games getting old….resistance…).
PS: I own Resistance, Motorstorm, and Oblivion as of now on the ps3…. I’ve prebought Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and Lair *debating on buying Haze or Ratchet and Clank (they both look good but Haze has co op online)
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+ Nathan Hale on August 5th, 2007 at 10:51 pm said:
First GTA 4 and now this….. >:(
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+ VozrotH on August 6th, 2007 at 6:37 am said:
Darkendless
Yeah it seems that way. It’s looking like the whole EGM bad review thing is starting to ring true.
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+ zeus on August 6th, 2007 at 7:13 am said:
ok guys they aren’t doing anymore testing on Lair. The only reason it got pushed back 3 weeks is they couldn’t mass produce in a week and half. give factor 5 and sony a break. The PS3 is the hardest peace of equipment to program for
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+ IceCold on August 6th, 2007 at 11:40 am said:
Will our most anticipated games ever be released on time? Waiting for a finished products is starting to get old.
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+ Lp47 on August 7th, 2007 at 9:50 am said:
Too bad, i was really excited about getting this game august 14th. Now its pushed back into a crowded september.
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+ Stevan253 on August 7th, 2007 at 10:53 am said:
HAHA, youv gotta be kidding, i cant believe EGM, a pack of xbox 360 trolls, would make any effect on anyone. you notice how every single other company that reviews gave it 5 thumbs up, including IGN, gamespot, gamepro, and every other review i’v ever seen loved LAIR, if you read EGMs review you notice they complained about their sucky skills in controlling their draggon..well you can change the sensitivity on the tilt so that should never become an issue. and then they shouted and complained about boring, i find riding a dragon through skies filled with other dragons that can only be defeated in fierce battle..slightly off the mark of boring lol. EGM has been trolling their heads, going in circles around the Xbox 360 and thats no surprise. its been going on for a while now. i’d highly suggest you try the game or at least listen to the dozens of other positive reviews before EGMs one negative one.
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+ ShaggyB on August 8th, 2007 at 8:32 am said:
In the mist of all things Sony… Id like to point out that releasing Lair on 9/4 and Heavenly Sword on 9/12 is probably among the worst ideas ive ever heard. Now I understand the need to have games on Ps3, mine currently has Ninja Gaiden Sigma and the Motorstorm Demo (not much on racers but 3 laps is fun from time to time), but seriously. You blow your load in between the release of Metroid Prime 3 and Halo 3. Nintendo drops Metroid at the end of August as to not have it completely over shadowed by the juggernaut that is Halo 3. (9/25/07)
Given Ps3 owners could careless about the Wii or the 360 but the ones of us who have all 3 gain a new perspective. I want Lair and Heavenly Sword badly (add MGS4 and God Of War3 and you get why i bought a Ps3), but to launch 2 AAA games in the same month only weeks apart and right before the biggest release in gaming history….. Why? (lets face facts people halo3 will sell Millions in a short span between 12 midnight and 1am on its release date)
Why have your best games of the year over shadowed in just two weeks. I agree with getting 1 out there but to loose both in that madness?? Why not release Lair in august and patch it over PSN in september. Then you have a game with a month life span before your next release, which still should be at the beginning of september to avoid that whole Halo3 problem.
Nintendo knows this. Metorid Prime 3 drops in August as to not have to get lost in the shuffle. Its a fps definning moment for the Wii, a real make or break. (Red Steal sucked so if nintendo cant make fps work, no will on the Wii) So its a big deal for them but they didnt do a september launch. (Aug27th, why not push it to september…. because halo 3 will win that month hands down)
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+ Stevan253 on August 8th, 2007 at 3:40 pm said:
well we can all say halo 3 is big, but to be honest halo in itself is getting really tiring. its never brought anything new to the table, and, to be honest, its success is beyond me. i love all the systems i think they are all fun but i do believe that halo in general isnt that great. In comparison both GoW and RFoM brought more riveting and exciting concepts then halo ever has, including gas gernades that explode into giant clouds of flame, chain saws and more. while halo still sticks with the average gernades, pistols, snipers, and machine guns with nothing really special about them at all. i dare to say that the only thing that keeps halo alive IS its fanbase and not the game itself. its all of the people playing the same game that makes it that much fun and not really the game itself wheras GoW and RFoM both could (and do) make great games on there own, with or without other people.
some of you really are clueless though, i have to say. telling sony to release it anyway and patch it through augest? that has to be the worst thing to do, seeing as how people would play it, it wouldnt be finished, and not buy it whether patching is going on or not. what sony is doing is far smarter then you think, they know about halo 3s big fan base, with that they have three options. release one unfinished game now and then one AAA in september to combat halo 3? no, starve the ps3 longer by waiting until after halo 3s launch? no, or you could release TWO AAA games, loaded up and ready to be played and loved, to combat halo 3.
think about it, a smart man would choose option 3. but i dont see why people decide to try to convince sony of what to do…it has no effect on us whether they make huge bucks or small ones, sony is already rich. so giving them producing advice is not too smart. you shouldnt really care if the games have to combat halo 3 or not, how does that effect you at all? if you like the game buy it, if you dont then dont, simple. you arnt going to be getting any of sonys money so trying to shoot them in the face with your “master” advice on how to successfully sell video games isnt going to change anything for you or them.