mikew  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:19 pm

well.. hopefully this delay is worth it.

TheDevilsJoker  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pm

Uh oh! Does this mean they will scrap the reviews and start new? Becuase im pretty sure pulling a game thats already in production is going to have to have massive changes otherwise why would it be worth it!

So give us the damned demo, you said June, Then july, ITS AUGUST NOW! Jesus!

careksims  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:21 pm

Another game…another delay….

Thanks Factor 5. I was really looking forward to playing this one this month. That EGM review might have dashed a lot of hopes for this game. F5 better fix it in time. We better have a lot of control options.

TheApprentice  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:21 pm

???? Wha???

“North American version of Lair has completed its development and is now in manufacturing! ”

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/25/lair-dev-is-complete-aug-14-release-set/

So you guys cancelled manufacturing after sending in the game???

sequoia  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pm

No worries, just hope 3 weeks is enough to make everything work right. Thanks for keeping us informed. Not too interesting in Lair anyway, give me Warhawk!

aaquib  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:25 pm

Heavenly Sword will probably get delayed.

2 AAA titles releasing on the same day, by the same publsiher? Sony is not retarded, they know it’ll hurt sales, so simple, they’re not going to do it. They’ll make up some crap about how they want the perfect product, therefore releasing it futher, but the game probably won’t go through any changes at all. You can probably look forward to LAIR on Sep.4th, but Heavenly Sword? No. The demo was a bit disappointing anyways, but at least we got a demo, unlike some games *cough* cough* lair *cough* cough* i might have a cold! *cough* lair* cough* lair*

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:25 pm

I can’t see how this is related to the EGM review … Who gives a flying flip about one game magazines review… the point is it’s being delayed by 3 weeks from it’s orginal release date to enhance online functionality that didn’t pass QA.. not because EGM gave a crap review cause they don’t like learning new things

BulletToothTony  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:25 pm

not trying to be stupid or anything.. but since heavenly sword comes out appereantly the same day.. or even if it comes out a week later there’s not way i would buy lair.. i was gonna buy lair just to play something for 2 to 3 weeks until H.S. came out..

really bad move for lair.. plus i really don’t care about leader boards anyways..

oh well.. they delay and it’s gonna cost them

aaquib  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:26 pm

@58

YES! Show us Warhawk before Microsoft shows us HALO 3! Cmonnn Sony! I played the BETA, which was the full game, and it played great(at the end of the beta), so just hurry up and release it. It would be nice to get one of the Incognito guys here to discuss the release date and other cool features.

bear0402  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Whatever it takes to make the game worth our investment of $60.

To the haters [DELETED] about the delay:
You act like drama queens over a game that is only being set back less than a month. We have seen worse. Get over it. At least we are still getting the game.

fireras  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pm

Why do I think that you guys are just re-implementing the analogue controls to please those SIXAXIS naysayers?

Either way tho, extra time to polish a game is not a bad thing. And tho I do want a good motion control game, if some including analogue controls will make everyone happy. Go ahead and re-implement it to give gamers a choice. Maybe then they will realize that SIXAXIS is a benefit in flight games just like they did when the Warhawk beta came out.

After all is said and done more choice is not such a bad thing. I really think that the game wasn’t delayed for community feature tho….unless this is related to the Home trophy dev kits not going out until later in the month.

I don’t know what to think anymore….just hurry up….my PS3 is yurning for a good game.

AwRy108  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:30 pm

Prolly should use the “extra” time to address the issues mentioned in the early reviews, namely the Sixaxis controls and the lack of a map.

I_Love_New_York  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:31 pm

@49 how is that a bad move. Actually I think its a good move from the developers and SOny delaying the game to enhance it and causing all this buzz and controversy thus making people look more into the game. Then when the release date happens and assuming we get a demo before the game comes out many people will go out and buy it. I already have this game on reserve.

carfo624  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:32 pm

Be honest. Tell everyone you pushed back the release date to fix the control scheme.

crckyo  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:35 pm

Please allow people to control the game using the analog sticks.

Voozi  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:35 pm

Can we at least get a demo?

jackrabbit75  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pm

It amuses me how many comment posts are under the assumption that this delay has anything to do with the actual game, control scheme or quality control. Considering the original release date… the final product is finished. Thousands of copies are already shrink wrapped and ready for distribution. The only modification that they’re making is in the online aspects of the game, not the title itself. I hope the subpar reviews were on early builds, because I would like the game to rock. For the sake of Sony and the survival of the PS3. It really needs a hot title to move some hardware.

dbarrade  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:37 pm

I’d wait a few more months for them to add multiplayer dragon deathmatch!

PsychoEddie  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:41 pm

Earth to game developers…Earth to game developers…come in game developers…over

Ranking systems, leader boards, medal sytems, and the like are all horse crap. They never work, they’re always hacked, they don’t update timely, random disconnects always bone the player.

Prime examples are the syphilitic abortions that zipper produced in ANY of their socom titles. Save us all the headache and leave them out.

That is all…Earth, over and out.

dewmandew7  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:41 pm

*grabs hair and screams* AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Well, it looks like most of my money is going to be spent in September.

I_Love_New_York  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pm

Yep can’t wait to get Lair Heavenly Sword Warhawk and Dynasty Warriors Gundam.

carfo624  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:45 pm

@69
The game gets almost perfect reviews except for the control scheme. I HIGHLY doubt they made the decision to push the game back based on medals and leaderbroads for single player. Rather, it’s much more likely they pushed the game back to assess the one problem every reviewer had with this game (and ultimately giving it a low score due to this one problem): The controls.

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:48 pm

@I_Love_New_York

Dynasty Warriors Gundam is going to be a blast… I can’t wait for that one to come out.. the demo was a blast and I went back and played it a few hundred times more to see if I could pull off any other fun combat moves.

lynux3  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:49 pm

Just make sure that framerate is silky smooth. ^_^

EViD  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:50 pm

will keep waiting, it’s gonna be worth it (i hope)

I_Love_New_York  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:50 pm

Yeah me too and there are so many different scenarios I played it a bunch of times also. I always try to kill every general. Also what was your highest kill mines was 1,250 yeah I know its a lot.

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:51 pm

@carfo624
I think you’re assuming too much into this… as things that have to be redeveloped have to be re-QA’d which can take the 3 weeks.

I highly doubt that they are changing the controls for people that complain about something that is different.

A_s_s_a_s_s_i_n  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:51 pm

I hate to say this. But…. If lair is coming out the same time as Heavenly Sword , Lair will most certainly be over shadowed.

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:53 pm

@I_Love_New_York

heh .. I haven’t payed attention … all I do is try to kill all the generals before my “partners” can get to them… I wish the jet mode would last longer though.. bums me out when i run low so quickly.

Dubbedinenglish  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm

Disappointed yes…But still very excited for this game? Yes, I am.

DaChinPin  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pm

I really wanted this game but like everyone else I’m disapointed. I understand that you guys are taking this time to fix the game. But you’re pushing your luck as it is. This game was supposed to come out Novermber 2007 if anyone can recall. Now it’s being pushed back to nearly a year delayed…I’m sorry but you’ll see that most people who want to play a game that uses the Sixaxis to its full potential will be buying Warhawk and forgetting about Lair. The only possible way you’ll get us back is by showing gameplay to us in forms of a demo.

I_Love_New_York  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pm

@gamerman
Yeah but I think your jet will last longer when you upgrade your mech. Hey man add me my PSn name is the same name that you see with the same “_”. I play resistance online and I also play the heavenly sword demo.

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pm

@DaChinPin you copy and paste.. how sad .. why don’t you put more effort into your posts… and only post it once!

StormLord  |  August 1st, 2007 at 4:59 pm

i hope it gets fixed with standard controller stick options too. i have a feeling the real delay is from the poor reviews and forum poster backlash.

tearsofash  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:00 pm

Hopefully you will reward the people who pre-ordered with cool goodies? Hmm? This is kind of a good thing, IMO. I was hoping to get my first ps3 game as this title. I still anxiously await this title, though. Two days before my birthday! At least now I’ll have money to get Persona 3.

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:00 pm

@I_Love_New_York

at work right now and won’t get out of here until 11 but my gamer tage is also my same name here :P
Not much into FPS so never gor RFOM but play about everything else :D
GamerMan76

DaChinPin  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm

Gamerman76 this is to give developers a message. They are being dumb by doing this. They’re going to less many many sales by putting Lair after Warhawk and on the same day as Heavenly Sword. Not a lot of people are interrested in Lair as it is. Now many will be turned off and will turn over to Warhawk which is already an awesome game and doesn’t need refining. They had a BETA. Demos are the way to see how your game stacks up with consumers which is all the people who are important to a developer anyway.

I_Love_New_York  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pm

@gamerman76
Ok I’ll add you in a bit. But yeah besides the next gundam game I’m going to get warhawk lair heavenly sword ratchet uncharted etc.

DaChinPin  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pm

I really wanted this game but like everyone else I’m disapointed. I understand that you guys are taking this time to fix the game. But you’re pushing your luck as it is. This game was supposed to come out Novermber 2007 if anyone can recall. Now it’s being pushed back to nearly a year delayed…I’m sorry but you’ll see that most people who want to play a game that uses the Sixaxis to its full potential will be buying Warhawk and forgetting about Lair. The only possible way you’ll get us back is by showing gameplay to us in forms of a demo. You’re disapoiting many people by making this move….

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:04 pm

@DaChinPin in a preview article with IGN they have stated that a Demo of Lair will be available but the game comes first. So most likely after reading that article my assumption would be that the game comes out and about the same time a demo will come out for it also.

Spamming a blog with the same thing won’t make them do anything they were or were not going to do anyways. It’s more disrepctful to your fellow bloggers to keep copying and pasting all the time.

aaquib  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:04 pm

@95

I couldn’t agree more. I was really thinking about purchasing this game on the 14th, but with Warhawk coming on the 28th, NOOO FREAKING WAY! Ill be pwning n00bs in Warhawk instead of flying dragons any day. I was planning on LAIR to set me back for great experiences until Warhawk, but Warhawk will give me all the great experiences I need :):):)

And after the Ninja Theory developer was literally cussing at the forum poster when asking about 1080i support in the game, and since 1 of my TVs only support 1080i, Heavenly Sword won’t be getting my money either.

Thankfully Warhawk will be upscaled to 1080i :):):):):)

DaChinPin  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:06 pm

Gamerman76 I know but they’re doing this and need to be informed it won’t work forever. Many people I know are already turned off Lair and are just going to buy Warhawk instead. This is a dumb move even if it is to get Home features or not.

Daver  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pm

very disapointted…

but why people are saying that it’s now coming out in same time as Heavenly Sword…. According to http://www.playstation.com HS will be out on September 12th

aaquib  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pm

@105

I just pray that Sony doesn’t delay Warhawk in order to get us to buy LAIR instead :(

Dragonchasers  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pm

Wow…. just wow.

“Given all the content and interest here on Lair, I figured you guys would also be interested to hear that the North American version of Lair has completed its development and is now in manufacturing!”

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/25

Man, I hate that you’re pushing me into this position, but I have to wonder now… why would you say it was in manufacturing if it clearly wasn’t?

GamerMan76  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pm

@I_Love_New_York
Everygame you mentioned I will be getting except warhawk :D

@DaChinPin
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I definitely don’t mind you expressing your frustration just give us enough room to talk back and forth so people can have conversations about this also :)

aaquib  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pm

@108

PWNED!

TheManGone  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm

i really was looking forward to buying lair but i guess not. though i dont care the fury of games are coming soon cant wait for the lovely fall.

Dragonchasers  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm

Oh, and DaChinPin, stop being an ass with your spamming. All you’re accomplishing is irritating the readers of the comments and making yourself look like an idiot.

sandman  |  August 1st, 2007 at 5:24 pm

what’s with all that “controls” BS! isn’t it time to try out motion controled games? at least one game? is that such a problem?
you are happy that bluray is turning out being useful, the same is with cell, what’s your problem with sixaxis?
is it because it’s something NEW TO LEARN? lazy gamers like “lazy developers”?