Comments on: Help Defend Gaming: Sign the Gamer Petition

By: PirateHarlock

PirateHarlock — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:52:39 +0000

I am definately NOT supporting either the ECA or SONY in this matter because both have equally shady and / or outright illegal business practices. ECA with its bogus “membership charges” and sony with its illegal deletion of otheros (yes deliberate deletion of data without consent is illegal) and its highly reprehensible business practices. The gaming industry deserves much closer scrutiny, not in the way the california legislation entails but in the same ways many financial institutions need closer supervision to prevent consumers from being ripped off.

By: MrBeatdown

MrBeatdown — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:09:13 +0000

Well, since my comment with a link in it has yet to be approved after three days, here it is again…

I refuse to ever support your organization after the mess you put your own members through. It’s not so much the fact that you had a non-working membership cancellation feature on your website as it is the fact that you lied, twisted facts, and blamed the entire issue on the likes of CheapAssGamer despite the issues being completely unrelated. You also failed to take any action to alert potentially affected members to your error. What’s worse is that you stand to profit from that error. What’s even worse that that is that some people who did discover the issue and jumped through your ridiculous hoops to cancel were STILL charged.

I’m all for the cause, but I’d rather take my chances than express my support/opposition through an organization that refuses to even look out for the best interests of their own members. Gamers aren’t stupid. This one’s for you Hal…

Google “RIP ECAs credibility” and click the third link.

By: Cheater87

Cheater87 — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:34:32 +0000

@ post 202. This WOULD ban these games from adults at least in their full uncensored form. The ESRB’s AO rating bans games from adults because no store would touch an AO game due to the rating. Why would this be ok to sell but an AO game not? I’m afraid of that happening and games being heavily censored for even adults just to be put out in the market.

By: KelXor

KelXor — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:55:21 +0000

I believe SkyNet003 you and others are missing the big picture, the problem is not about gamers under 18 but that simply the whole process is flawed as there is no scientific evidence that violent games influence violent behaviour. It is simply wrong and these politicians are doing this likely because of a lot of pressure is being put on their shoulders by brainless parents out there… so obviously as usual they only care about the votes…question is if this is allow to happen, what comes next? Any other crazy idea will also go through…
For those people who think otherwise… when was the first game invented? on the late 1940′s or so? well U.S.A was already deep in some crazy violence, mafia killing all over, drugs, weapons…and do you know how the games looked at that time? boring little squares shooting more boring little squares… come on people have some common sense!

By: SkyNet003

SkyNet003 — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:38:52 +0000

Of course, if I am going to defend my rights, I’d rather defend them on more, how shall I say, mundane things, perhaps?

By: SkyNet003

SkyNet003 — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:37:35 +0000

As far as I know, the whole thing was to stop kids from buying M-rated games, right? If that’s the case, what’s the problem, then?

Of course, I might be wrong…

By: KelXor

KelXor — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:16:02 +0000

It’s so lame some brainless poeple try to blame the extreme violence that have been going on in the U.S.A for ages to the video games!. The worse thing is these people obviously have a lot of weight in the judicial system so you can imagine any other crazy lack of common sense and scientific support idea may potentially come through eventually.
This is not about supporting ECA or the gaming industry people, this is about standing up for your rights! yes you heard it correctly…YOUR RIGHTS!

Even though I’m in Canada and signing the petition may not count, people’s right have no boundaries so I’m 100% behind it and I have sign it anyways!

By: Keyeszx

Keyeszx — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:57:43 +0000

@8 I know they need to stop. When will parents be blamed. Watch when the minors generation are the ones running the country they will blame the parents because of the actions parents are making today. Damn weren’t they taught responsibility.

By: common-sence

common-sence — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:10:53 +0000

Don’t do anything to associate yourself with the ECA.

Check online about there history. They allowed people to sign up for a one year membership for free. They then proceeded to remove some of the benefits (to their credit, some were abused), which caused several people to opt out. HOWEVER, their online opt-out system was fake. People who canceled got charged for another year.

The ECA then said “our system never had an online option to cancel an automatic re-subs,” and removed it from their site. They then MANDATED that people send them registered snail mail to cancel, saying that “there was an old database no one knew about, and it kept everyone’s CC info, which is why they were re-upped.” So they kept personal financial info long after someone wanted out. They don’t send out one month warnings about recharges despite saying repeatedly that they require themselves to do so. Hal set off on a huge campaign to complain about how “gamers abused everything, they got what they deserved, we are not at fault here,” and other nonsense.

By: PsychoMantis86

PsychoMantis86 — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:33:13 +0000

Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither.

~Benjamin Franklin