Comments on: Gamers Unite Today: Join the VGVN

By: righello

righello — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:23:10 +0000

@68 Spacerac: “Grievances about not enough rights for content purchased, yeah I have issues with that too. But THAT particular issue is NOT what the topic is here. Period.”

True. — But, lets not lose the irony. What are ‘rights’ when they’re only partial rights?

(Rights for the producer to 90% mediocre products and bad management. For the buyer/investor/PS3-fan this is a bad relationship. The trust in quality of catalog is gone. Good content is a ‘right’. Not the protection from government to release/takeaway whatever they want, and sell to whomever. But, we bought at our own risk..)

By: FormerPSfan

FormerPSfan — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:22 +0000

@Spacerac some retailers do make a pretense of following ESRB ratings but its only a pretense at best. Nearly every time I walk into Blockbuster, Future shop, Best buy, EBgames / Gamestop I see the same thing. That is a child who is well underage trying to buy an M rated game and more often than not they get it simply cause their parent(s) are there paying for it. Try the same thing at the movies, that is taking an underage child into an R rated movie, they wont get in no matter how many adults are with them.

By: Spacerac

Spacerac — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:10:17 +0000

Also I must reiterate-no I do not feel a minor should be able to purchase M-rated games. But if there’s a law passed about that, then pass a law forbidding R-rated, parental advisory rated, and “filthy” movies, music, and books to children as well. Then look at these laws, and realize that these laws are the epitome of censorship.

By: Spacerac

Spacerac — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:05:09 +0000

I thought most people here would see what makes the law unconstitutional. You know what’s law that requires an ID? Porn, alcohol, cigarettes and other controlled substances. So you really want video games, a legit artistic medium, to be regarded as equal to these things and denied first amendment protection?

A part of this IS about money. But what the heck do you think it takes for the industry to grow? Money. If the industry isn’t making money because retailers aren’t stocking any game that falls under “mature” then the games will stop being made. And the law defines “violent game” as “assaulting an image of a human being.” That’s like saying you as Nathan Drake can’t shoot and kill the people that are trying to kill you. And this being PlayStation and all, you all know the critical acclaim Uncharted 2 got last year.

Grievances about not enough rights for content purchased, yeah I have issues with that too. But THAT particular issue is NOT what the topic is here. Period.

This isn’t going to stop the screaming kids into the mic because the PARENTS bought them these things in the first place. Seriously, the ESRB is great enough and it’s the PARENTS JOB not the government’s to regulate what kids play.

By: FormerPSfan

FormerPSfan — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:36:20 +0000

Cut the crap already. NOBODY BELIEVES THIS IGNORANT WORTHLESS PROPAGANDA!!!

This trash is so laughable it makes Radio Havana look good.

By: EggySong85

EggySong85 — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:07:05 +0000

Personally I didn’t really care all that much about these laws, as it didn’t really seem to change much, but if it’s got Playstation Blog up in arms, then there’s obviously more to the story than what meets the eye!

By: Badmamajamma

Badmamajamma — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:43:49 +0000

I feel very strongly about the freedoms we as Americans deserve. Freedom of expression, speech, press and more are all being put up to be ran over here with this whole supreme court deal. For those of you on here saying “what’s the worst that could happen?” did you not read the post? If one state wins more will come forth trying to push the same thing. To restrict the sale of certain games in certain states is not only unconstitutional but plain wrong. It is like taking our rights that our fore-fathers have fought to obtain and continue to have and saying thanks but no thanks. This absolute insanity by the USC to even hear this and consider anything other than saying no to the state of CA. As far as kids playing violent games thatshould be parent regulated not government regulated. You can count me in. Now I have a question, if this were to result in a law and certain states banned games from retailers would we be able to still purchase them online?

By: righello

righello — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:50:12 +0000

For one thing: the government already tells us what we can watch, print, or say. For another, I feel many U.S. citizens will be cynical about this issue, myself included, because of the current polices of those rep.’n Free Speech in this case.. I mean should we be worried about the U.S. movie industry?? Have you been to the theater lately?!?! What’s worth saving. Good directors aren’t allowed to work in this country. They have little rights and have to give up everything to some corporation to get anything finished; no final cut.

By: righello

righello — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:36:55 +0000

I would agree that ultimately this is more about sinking pockets than any sort of Free Speech rights.. We’ve had a similar issue in this country, as we all know about; no one wins. Not the ‘createur’ or the ‘customer’. Musicians still weren’t being paid in the 90s. Sabotage still exists.

This is even more ironic that this issue appears here seeing as not too long ago there was an issue with consumer’s rights: what rights does any of this amount to?!?! Can a company just remove functionality that was paid for? What about shovelware? What protections does the consumer have? Why should we really care, still?

This still sounds strange, even after reading…. Don’t trust it.

By: nairb85

nairb85 — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:20:20 +0000

If this law was only going to end up making it required to show ID for games based on rating, then I wouldnt care much, as another poster has already stated in Canada u have to how I’d for m-rated games anyway, if the retailer questions ur age. However, I don’t think this will be the end result, even if it’s all that is intended, game developers will start to aim for specific ratings, as filmakers/studios do. This may cause games that would otherwise be m-rated to be toned down to fit the requirements of a T-rating, just so more people will purchase the game. The problem with minors playing mature content games isn’t lack of regulation, its lack of responsibilty by parents who let their kid play watever they want because it keeps them put of their hair.