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inFAMOUS Second Son: Your Questions Answered

Fred Dutton's Avatar + Posted by Fred Dutton on Mar 11, 2014 // SCEE Blog Manager

With the the March 21st launch of inFAMOUS Second Son on PS4 just a few weeks away, we recently reached out to you all via Twitter, Facebook, and regional forums with a call for any questions you might have about the latest entry in Sucker Punch’s open-world, superhero series.

Duly, you deluged us with queries, which Brian Fleming — studio co-founder and producer on Second Son — has kindly taken the time to answer. Read on for his responses, and let us know if you have any additional questions in the comments below.

How did you come across the idea for Second Son? (‏@Crodogile)

Brian Fleming: Like a lot of things, it’s not a single point. It’s actually the reverse — you have a bunch of ideas that eventually coalesce and gel into what becomes Delsin Rowe.

The character himself was an offshoot of the decision to do Seattle. Once we picked Seattle, the idea of taking the roots of the area and having a kid who grew up on one of the Native American reservations here really was the genesis of Second Son.

On the flipside, one of the early decisions was that we were going to make a game where you have multiple power sets. That was an important decision to us, as we felt that a single power set — for inFAMOUS 2, in particular — got overly sophisticated and more difficult to actually play. It just made it a little bit too complex for some players.

So we wanted to simplify the controller layout. One way to do that was to have layered power sets, and that was a very specific, early design decision.

You take those two things and start working on them in parallel, and eventually they became Second Son.

Why didn’t Sucker Punch choose real cities as settings in previous games, but then chose to use a real city setting in Second Son? (‏@BlackViper75)

Brian Fleming: It’s not as big a change as you might suspect. Obviously Empire City was inspired by New York, and New Marais was inspired by New Orleans. With the jump to next-gen hardware, we wanted to take that same jump in realism.

It made a lot of sense to us, in this case, to do Seattle properly. For example, it’s pretty hard to imagine doing Seattle and doing a fictional Space Needle. Some kind of galactic tower just doesn’t make sense. Maybe we’re just being provincial because we live here, but it seemed like it had to be the real Space Needle. And if it was going to be the real Space Needle, it had to be the real Seattle.

It was exciting to be able to take on all the nuances and quirks of the city. The locals here will recognize all the little opportunities we had to find unusual local vendors — the car wash guy, or the donut shop, even the gum wall in the bowels of Pike Place Market — all these little things. It was an enjoyable task for us. It made doing this more fun, more real — it was just a good time.

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How lively is the city? (Cringles88)

Brian Fleming: The population of the city is a big part of how you gauge your progress in Second Son. The team working on that aspect of the game is always trying to make things more detailed and add more volume.

We also want pedestrians to be intelligent. There’s a lot of combat in the game, and pedestrians do as pedestrians do in real life: run away! So when you’re in heavy combat, you shouldn’t expect to see lots of people wandering around. There’s a balance to strike between having the city feel lively, but also have pedestrians behaving realistically.

How destructible is the city? (T1000peX)

Brian Fleming: The most important stuff that you’ll be destroying is the infrastructure that the DUP is putting into the city. You’ve seen some of this in the demos we’ve done. This stuff was designed to break in the most spectacular way we could manage. It’s all simulated, multi-stage breakables — so if you blow up one corner of something, the whole thing topples over and smashes to the ground. That’s been a lot of fun to work on.

It rains a lot in Seattle. Is it the same in the game? (leonidass22000)

Brian Fleming: Yes, it does rain a lot in Seattle in real life, and it rains a lot — or looks like it recently rained — in Second Son. We’re not trying to do an accurate weather sim as much as make the game astoundingly gorgeous.

We’ve changed the weather throughout the game to make it beautiful, and make it our favorite time of day — whether that’s just after it’s rained at dusk, or when the sun is breaking through the clouds. The art director and the tech artists all work to try and define these beautiful scenes that just happen to take place in rainy Seattle.

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Do I need to play inFAMOUS 1 and 2 to entirely understand the story? (‏@MHND95)

Brian Fleming: Second Son takes place seven years after the events of the first two games, so in a lot of ways there’s enough time separation that the game very much stands on its own. If you know a lot of detail about what happened in previous games that might add some richness for you, but from a plot standpoint, it’s absolutely not required.

Will we see characters from inFAMOUS 1 or 2 in Second Son? (Conor Linehan)

Brian Fleming: This isn’t an homage to the previous games. That doesn’t mean that there won’t be a couple of fun things in there for the fans — but it’s not what Second Son is about. It’s not about, say, Zeke being a front line character. This is Delsin’s story.

I’d like to know what Sucker Punch changed about their game to excite themselves for another entry. (‏@Golwar)

Brian Fleming: If you’re talking strictly as game makers, the most important change for us was changing the power set that the character has. Sure, we changed cities, we changed consoles, we changed a lot of things about how we produced cut scenes, but the most important change from a game-making perspective was the character — and the power sets that he has.

How many powers does Delsin Rowe have? (Frederik Strange Dybsø)

Brian Fleming: To avoid spoiling the game, we’ve really only talked about Smoke and Neon powers, and we’re keeping that stance until the game launches.

One of the things we haven’t talked about is how many powers are in each set, and how many upgrades are available. Without putting specific numbers on it, there’s a substantial number of individual powers in each set, and many — if not all of them — are upgradeable.

Do good and bad decisions affect the story a lot more than in previous titles? (@GTAVFAN13)

Brian Fleming: The most interesting thing about inFAMOUS Second Son is that you’ll be making decisions about the trajectories of some of the other characters, which is a different take on it. But ultimately, the most important changes aren’t narrative ones. There’ve been systems added to really foster different play styles, and that’s the thing that’s going to be the most enjoyable aspect of your second playthrough.

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Will Delsin’s appearance change the more evil he gets, like Cole’s did? (Michael Kilfeather)

Brian Fleming: Yes, a lot of the things that players expect — like the changes in the character and the changes in the powers — are present. They all relate and feedback to the karma systems. So you’ll have vastly different visuals and powers depending on which way you’re playing.

Will inFAMOUS use the light bar function? (@MHND95)

Brian Fleming: We’re huge fans of DualShock 4. The touch pad, the light bar — we take advantage of all those things in various ways. Some of them are surprising, some of them simple. You drain power by touching the touch pad, for example.

But the biggest things that we’re excited about regarding DualShock 4 are the improvements made in the tension on the sticks, and the shape of the sticks themselves, all of which make for better control. Not just for inFAMOUS, but every PlayStation game is going to benefit from the smaller dead zones, the improved triggers — all of that closed the distance between the player and the game.

Will there be online multiplayer? (Bjarke Bjerregaard)

Brian Fleming: No, it’s a single-player experience, but of course you can share it with others using the fantastic Share button on DualShock 4.

Will there be online, user-created levels and if so, is it any different compared to the previous inFamous games? (Edres Mo)

Brian Fleming: UGC is not a part of this title. It was part of inFAMOUS 2, but not a part of Second Son.

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Would you consider another “what if” scenario like Festival of Blood for a spin-off, possibly on Vita even? (@hayzink)

Brian Fleming: We’re really happy that Second Son went gold and we’re certainly doing a lot to prepare for launch. Once we get through the launch, I’m sure we’ll have something to chew on regarding DLC, but we’ve nothing to announce right now.

How long is the game? (Andreas Nørehave Vestergård)

Brian Fleming: We’ve already established the size and shape of the inFAMOUS experience, and Second Son is very much an inFAMOUS game. We understand what we’re trying to accomplish there in terms of scale. Certainly the world is dramatically more detailed than ever before, and our focus was on improving the quality of every interaction. What we’ve tried to do is take the inFAMOUS experience that you know and love and “next-gen” the entire thing on every level.

How big will the install be? (Michael Briggs)

Brian Fleming: 24 GB.

Will there still be things to do within the game world after the main story has finished? (@el_appyday)

Brian Fleming: The inFAMOUS games always have secondary content spread throughout the world. There’s a fairly large DUP presence inside the city that remains to be cleared out after you finish the main game. They’ll continue to launch incursions into the city after you’ve wrapped up the campaign, so they’ll be plenty to keep you going.

And then, of course, for a lot of players the first thing they’ll want to do is go back and play the other “karmic” direction. Between that mix of things, people should have plenty to do in the after-game and in their second playthrough.

What was the most technically challenging aspect of creating inFAMOUS Second Son? (Sean O’Coileáin)

Brian Fleming: Probably the design implementation and the boot-strapping of our new effects system. When we went into this project, we knew that we wanted to start from scratch on our visual effects. The VFX for a game like this are as important as any aspect of what we do, so we didn’t want to just take our old system and add a couple of features.

So the system was redesigned to entirely run in the graphics chip. There’s so much computational power there. And then we had to design an authoring system, and it ended up being dramatically more technical to author particle effects and special effects in our game than it had previously.

There was a really big technical jump required of the art team. They had to get comfortable with linear algebra and vector fields, and all kinds of crazy advanced mathematics. It’s really to their credit that they were able to train themselves and come to an understanding of all the math that goes into making the particle effects work. And the results are spectacular.

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Do you plan to release a demo of the game before its release? (Isaac_Vlad)

Brian Fleming: Unfortunately, we don’t have plans to do a demo for this game.

Will the Seattle music scene feature in the game’s soundtrack? (JynXten)

Brian Fleming: Without getting into too many specifics, there are some local bands whose music you’ll hear. It’s not exactly the point of Second Son to be a Seattle music scene experience, but we certainly recognize that it’s a big part of what the city is about.

We used Dead Sara’s version of a Nirvana song for the trailers, a Mudhoney song in the TV commercial, and one of the famous venues here, The Crocodile, is in the game. We’re very much aware of and respect the Seattle music scene, so it had to make an appearance in the game.

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+ xClayMeow on March 11th, 2014 at 8:05 am said:

The only question my friend and I care about, isn’t even asked…

Will the rumored Infamous: Second Son PS4 Bundle come to the US and if so, will it be at launch and at what price point?


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+ Vyprstryke on March 11th, 2014 at 8:17 am said:

It’s available at GameStop online only apparently in the US and it’s 569.99 I believe. Not really a discount or anything.


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+ Gorvi on March 11th, 2014 at 8:23 am said:

I have the 21st off from work, can not wait. :)


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+ Bulleteddy on March 11th, 2014 at 8:30 am said:

I tried to avoid reading about this game too much since I knew I was going to get it given my love of the first two titles. That has helped keep my anticipation levels in check…

But now that I’ve read through this, my excitement has reached a fever pitch!! I should have stuck to my guns and my self-imposed media blackout. Now the 10 days until launch feels like 10 months! Thanks for making this incredible game Sucker Punch and so early in the PS4′s life cycle! I CANNOT WAIT!!!!


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+ hawjboi2009 on March 11th, 2014 at 8:32 am said:

yes yes yes can’t wait to play this so bad.. 10 days away until Midnight to download it on ps4.. i guess it will be up to download it at around Midnight to 1am.. i going to play as Evil first then play as Good on second is good for last to see good ending.. i already pre-order this game in PSN Store


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+ MarinoBrea on March 11th, 2014 at 8:38 am said:

And no one ever asks about enemy variety, cool bosses or thugs with different powers? why? is it so obvious? doesn’t anyone care about enemy variety in large open city game? I don’t want to spend over 30 hours killing people with guns and some rock powers.


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+ speedkiller1 on March 11th, 2014 at 8:38 am said:

man i cant wait i got in to the 1st one thanks to psplus :)


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+ PooPface560 on March 11th, 2014 at 8:41 am said:

Excited is me. Can’t wait to play! The Seattle screenshot up there looks amazing. Also, the powers and everything else seem to be brilliantly stunning.

Keep up the amazing work Sucker Punch. The force is strong with this one.


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+ Dark_Yoda_313 on March 11th, 2014 at 8:43 am said:

I guess it was too much to expect that they would address the $10 price increase for Canadian players.


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+ Teraclips on March 11th, 2014 at 8:50 am said:

Dear Sucker Punch,

Can you make the digital version available to pre-load a day or two before launch? Since the benies were gone so fast I’m left with the digital version of the game!
Thanks

@9: you should ask your politicians about that son


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+ Watchmann on March 11th, 2014 at 9:14 am said:

@9 the $10 price discrepancy has been explained away as a function of the falling Canadian dollar. What’s not been noted is that paying $10 extra is GREATER than the rate of exchange. That amounts to a $3 price difference which is minimal, but does raise the question as to what Sony based their calculations on.


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+ CrusaderForever on March 11th, 2014 at 9:17 am said:

Sounds great, cannot wait to play it. Loved inFAMOUS and I am going through inFAMOUS 2 right now and loving it. Highly anticipating this next gen open world you have created. All of its beauty thanks to your talented team and the Power of the PS4!!


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+ c3apollyon on March 11th, 2014 at 9:34 am said:

Let’s not forget all the Canadian studios producing content for Sony are being paid in Canadian dollars so saving Sony money. But that doesn’t get reflected in the price.


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+ xClayMeow on March 11th, 2014 at 9:38 am said:

@Vyprstrike, that’s not the official bundle, that’s simply GameStop bundling it together; thus the high price.


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+ JPG2105 on March 11th, 2014 at 9:51 am said:

Will the choices made in Infamous 2, specifically near the end be touched on? Since (without spooling the game) wouldn’t some of the choices from Infamous 2 create a large plot hole for Second Son?


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 9:55 am said:

Please if you’re going to post the “how long is the game” question at least give an answer.

Posting the question without an actual answer (x hour for story, approx. x hours for side missions/exploring) then don’t bother posting the question.

Posting the question and not answering is an insult to all your fans.


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 9:57 am said:

Oh one more issue.

Why is this game suddenly 10$ more in Canada?

When the Canadian dollar was stronger (same basic numbers as now but in reverse) we didn’t pay 50 instead of 60 for infamous games.

Many retailers and devs are sticking with the 60$ price point.

So why are you (among a select few + gamestop) suddenly raising prices in Canada.

The value of the dollar is not a valid excuse, we spent a couple years paying MORE for game already when ours was the stronger dollar.

This 10$ hike makes no sense (for Canadians) given past currency and game price history.


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+ mrk916 on March 11th, 2014 at 9:59 am said:

@ #1 and #2 Gamestop has it for $480 for the bundle, for the game,1 yr ps plus and a controller of course


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+ Dangisuckatgamin on March 11th, 2014 at 10:01 am said:

#16
Agreed, I’m thinking it’ll be roughly a 6-8 hour game (but honestly the graphics will be so great to look at i’ll probably take my time and it’ll be around 10-12)


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+ liammill18 on March 11th, 2014 at 10:02 am said:

@17 Ask Sony, not Sucker Punch. They don’t decide their pricing on a granular level like that. I live in Canada, and I don’t like it either, but this is not the correct place to be asking that question.


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+ emad-E-three on March 11th, 2014 at 10:04 am said:

1 thing I really need to know will there be a pre-load for the game ? and when ?


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+ CaruthK on March 11th, 2014 at 10:06 am said:

Oh I can’t wait to play this game when it comes out.


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+ italodancemp3 on March 11th, 2014 at 10:21 am said:

Just where is the PS Vita version?


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+ promethean on March 11th, 2014 at 10:25 am said:

Is this streamable to the Vita via Remote Play? I haven’t been able to find a list of PS4->Vita compatible games, except for Sony’s listing that “most” were possible.


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+ pablofsi08 on March 11th, 2014 at 10:31 am said:

Some kind of multiplayer online as DLC would sell well.


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 10:41 am said:

@20 no Sony did not make the decision.

There are plenty of games and retailers still doing the 59.99 price point for other games. Some are doing a 5$ hike. Some are doing the 10$ hike. It’s pretty random and not a Sony mandate.

It’s all by dev/game company/retailer. Amazon last I saw still had the normal prices. (though I expect this game changed prices)

So no it’s not a Sony thing, it’s a dev by dev, retailer by retailer thing, and it’s a complete rip off.

If the Canadian dollar ends up being the stronger one again in a year or two, they better start charging us 5 or 10$ less or my, this is a rip off comment will be further cemented as a truth.


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+ MakoSoul on March 11th, 2014 at 10:49 am said:

It’s disappointing to see the fact the morality system remains black and white is not addressed here. Players who want a more realistic grey experience are penalized for not sticking to good or bad through the whole playthrough.

I want to see Sucker Punch create an Infamous where I can create my own character and shape them.

Like Mass Effect x Infamous. Because that would equal awesome next-gen. This is like Infamous with a face-lift.


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 10:53 am said:

btw. This game is why I bought a PS4. I had it pre-ordered as soon as it was available.

As soon as you raised the price I went to gamestop and cancelled my pre order.

As a fan I feel insulted constantly by sony and the Vita and PS4 side of things. (watchdogs, driveclub delayed (at the last minute, as launch titles nonetheless…. vita getting lackluster NA support.)

Devs raising prices is my last straw, even with my favourite franchise.

So well done, you went from a guaranteed day one purchase, to someone who’s waiting for a steep price drop. I know I’m not the only one who feels that way now.

Great business model fellas, raising the price a few weeks before release (btw if it was exchange rate related, the price would go up 4-5 dollars not 10).

I hope the game does well because I LOVE Infamous. But I can’t support this kind of Canadian price gouging.


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+ MastahBuddah on March 11th, 2014 at 11:32 am said:

@24 If you go to the playstation store on your ps4 and go to any game page it will tell you either at the top or in the game information section if it has remote play but so far every retail ps4 game out has it and i can confirm infamous will to. Its the first thing i checked since i have a vita as well and love the remote play feature. Can’t wait to bust some conduit and dup ass with my ps4 and vita


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+ Teflon02 on March 11th, 2014 at 12:08 pm said:

My interest went away with the $10 raise. If I buy this, you guys are lucky cause that means I ran into a store that isn’t ripping me off $10 and I got money I can freely spend (which is unlikely). I refuse to pay more then $60 for a game, it’s just a insult. Canada never gets good treatment. I’d have hope atleast Sony and the devs would atleast keep game prices fair. So sad really… We are not making any more money working then we were last year. so this just makes everything harder to keep up with.


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+ brutalgamer360 on March 11th, 2014 at 12:10 pm said:

finally we can play a video game which can show PS4 abilities…and I hope secondson has got a good story to tell


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+ mastorofpuppetz on March 11th, 2014 at 12:22 pm said:

@9 man why do people keep whining over the increase in price in Canada like Sony can do Anything about it? Google exchange rates, seriously this is out of sony’s control, damn people.


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+ mastorofpuppetz on March 11th, 2014 at 12:22 pm said:

@30 this has zero to do with sony, seriously educate yourselves.


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+ MJtheMC on March 11th, 2014 at 12:35 pm said:

I think it looks like a great game. Honestly I’m not going to be picking it up right away after reading some of the Q &A. Thanks for that.


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+ PSDan007 on March 11th, 2014 at 12:35 pm said:

I also would like to know if the inFamous Second Son PS4 bundle is coming to the U.S. and when??? I’ve been waiting to pre-order!
Thank you.


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+ CrusaderForever on March 11th, 2014 at 12:39 pm said:

@29
+1!!!!!!


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 12:47 pm said:

@33

Sorry but there’s already plenty of evidence that this has nothing to do with the exchange rate.

The rate has been bad before, I paid the same as the USA.

The rate has been well in Canada’s favour (the opposite of now) and we didn’t pay any less than the USA.

The exchange rate issue is just an excuse, especially when games that (if the rate was the reason) should only go up 4-5 dollars maximum instead go up by 10.

Lots of reasons and evidence and past experience to show the Canadian price hike is just a money grab because they can.


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 12:48 pm said:

@33 or in other words, it’s entirely about Sony and game devs and some greedy game seller stores.


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+ D-Squad3 on March 11th, 2014 at 1:05 pm said:

“One of the things we haven’t talked about is how many powers are in each set, and how many upgrades are available. Without putting specific numbers on it, there’s a substantial number of individual powers in each set, and many — if not all of them — are upgradeable.”

So happy to read this.


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+ liammill18 on March 11th, 2014 at 1:36 pm said:

@26 Sony is the publisher and owner of the title and IP. They own everything from the brand to the marketing team. Sucker Punch does not have a say in these types of discussions. Additionally, other companies choosing to remain at $59.99 is at the behest of those publishers. There is no “Sony mandate” to be at $59.99 either, that simply doesn’t exist. It’s not a “dev by dev” basis. Publishers control the release price. This happened back in 2008 and 2009 as well, so it’s not a new thing, and prices reverted when the currency pulled itself up.


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 2:15 pm said:

lol @40

Ok so I should have used the word publisher instead of Dev, my point remains valid.

And when the Canadian dollar was stronger we paid the same (which = more) so why when it’s weaker should we pay more? (which doesn’t = the same since the exchange rate isn’t that bad yet).

It’s not like the price of anything else I buy suddenly went up, just games…. interesting that…

I didn’t realize Sony owned sucker punch/the IP/etc…, that’s my mistake. I also said it’s not a sony mandate… so why tell me it’s not? That’s just agreeing but making it sound like I said something else.

But since this article was posted by a Sony rep, this is still the right place to post about this topic.

Btw. if the publishers (sorry not Dev, such a huge error in wording :P ) control the prices why do different merchants charge different prices? EB games charges the most for example.


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+ ScorpioN912 on March 11th, 2014 at 2:25 pm said:

@40, @41

Sony (the publisher) would set a MSRP for the product, although it is up to the individual retail location to follow that.

Personally, I would prefer to get the digital version, and in this case, it is Sony that is setting the $69.99 CAD price on PSN.

Unless they drop it back down before launch, I am walking away from this title.


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+ liammill18 on March 11th, 2014 at 2:25 pm said:

@41 At the end of the day it’s entirely publisher based for the vast majority. If ever you see a discrepancy that only one retailer is holding (I know EBGames has quite a few, I think Yaiba and Dark Souls 2, for example), then yeah, that retailer is totally shooting for your wallet.

On the other hand, I totally agree that it sucks. The only reason I can rationalize we never get benefits is the same reason that America’s not getting a discount right now. Gotta’ keep the bottom line as high as possible. It really sucks.


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+ MusicMan05 on March 11th, 2014 at 2:31 pm said:

If anyone from Sucker Punch or the Blog team reads this, I have a question regarding the digital version. Will there be a difference in performance between the disc and digital versions? I’m asking this because the digital version of Grand Theft Auto 5 has problems with pop, unlike the disc version. Since it appears Second Son requires a full install, does this mean the game will be pulling data off the HDD and the Blu-Ray, similar to what Rockstar did?


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+ TomatoDragon on March 11th, 2014 at 2:32 pm said:

So incredibly stoked!


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+ leptonic on March 11th, 2014 at 2:41 pm said:

Can’t wait for it!


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+ boomstickbhg on March 11th, 2014 at 2:41 pm said:

@43 I guess we see things the same way for the most part.

I still think this will be a great game, but between EB (and some other merchants) having it’s own price scheme, and all of Canada being charged more for games, as you said ‘it sucks’.

But you are likely correct in that it’s mostly due to the publishers. Thankfully some of my favourite publishers are still charging as low as 50$ for games. EB made every vita game 45 (most stores I visit are still 40).

I hope everyone enjoys this game and the Infamous franchise thrives. I’m just not sure I can afford this game now :( (70 + 13% tax is basically 80$ for one game in Canada…)


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+ Virtute1979 on March 11th, 2014 at 3:03 pm said:

EB (gamestop) has made statements regarding the poor CDN dollar meaning it’s costing more to ship in product, revenues are less etc. It’s economics sadly, although I still don’t understand why the digital version also costs $10 more here in Canada. I don’t think I’ve paid 70 plus dollars for a Playstation game since the early days of the PS One but I’ll do so for this one. Can’t wait to play it. I’m sure that the prices will go down when the CDN dollar picks back up.


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+ dkarlowicz10 on March 11th, 2014 at 3:10 pm said:

There have been rumors about a standalone Infamous game for Vita. Are they true? Has it been outsourced to another developer? PS Vita needs a game like Infamous, as there are very few open world games.


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+ JROD0823 on March 11th, 2014 at 3:16 pm said:

Don’t you Canadians have anything better to do than complain about the price of games?

Isn’t there pot to smoke, moose to ride, bears to wrestle, baby seals to club in the head, and many other things to better pass your time with?


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