Pata-Post Friday: Demo Day and New Evolution System

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Great news peoples of the blog! The long-awaited much-anticipated PlayStation Network Patapon 2 Demo has been released for mass consumption (i.e. everyone!), so set your PSPs to download and get ready for the war-tastic ethereal musical bliss known as Patapon 2.

Patapon2 PSP game demo icon

What you get, get, get with this fantastic free download is five levels of pure greatness full of Hero Patapon, Patagate, Mater the Tree of Life and all the evolution you can shake a Darwin-sized stick at.

Patapolis in Patapon 2

So let’s rewind a bit: back in the glorious days of Patapon 1, this majestic perennial (above) was the birthing (and reviving) spot of all Patapon warriors. If you had a couple of rare items and coffers full of ka-ching, you could grow yourself some Rarepons…but it was a bit of a gamble.

Enter Patapon 2, and introducing Mater 2.0, now with Evolution System! It’s Patapon creation and reanimation minus the guess work! With the new Evolution System you can clearly see your Patapon’s potential and work towards getting him there.

The Evolution System can be simplified into two separate portions: transformation and brawn. The transformation portion is fairly straightforward and linear.

Patapon 2 Evolution Map Screenshot 3

As you progress through the game, you’ll find basic materials and ka-ching that you can bring back to Mater to transmogrify each Patapon to a much deadlier Rarepon. Each evolution has a neat little tag that will tell you exactly what you need. So if you are one Kuneri Fang short of a Pyopyo…you know what to do (hint: kill some more enemies!)

Evolution_Map_01 copy


Now that you’ve transmogrified your cute little Patapon into a menacing Pyopyo, you have two options: continue the transmogrification (into another Rarepon) or you can put your Pyopyo through bootcamp and make him stronger. This is the brawn portion of the Evolution System, where you’ll be able to unlock each Rarepon’s special power.

Patapon 2 Evolution Map screenshot 2

So what are the benefits of leveling up vs. transmogrifying? Well for starters, you can only unlock some of the new Patapon troops. For example, a Robopon can only be unlocked if you’ve fully transmogrified a Tatepon (unlocked all his forms). Each Rarepon also has special abilities such as resistance to fire, ice or sleep attacks while some Rarepons can attack faster or take more damage. It’s important to have a diversified army of various types of Rarepons. This will ensure supreme victory over the Karmen.

In contrast, leveling up does not unlock new Rarepons, but instead it makes your Rarepon’s abilities much stronger.

Patapon 2 Rarepon Level 1 Patapon 2 Rarepon Level 5 Patapon 2 Rarepon Level 10

Level 1(Buff)————————–Level 5 (Semi-Buff) ——————–Level 10 (Ultra Buff)

The difference between a baseline Pyopyo (who is somewhat strong against ice attacks) and his ultra-buff version Pyokora (which can never be frozen and is lighting quick) can sometimes mean victory or defeat, especially when you are battling a level 5 Manboth (yikes!).

Patapon 2 Combo screenshot

Right about now is when I’ll stop yapping about the great new Evolution System and let you get started on the downloading the demo and experience it yourself. Greg Miller over at IGN gives a pretty cool breakdown of Patapon 2, which might help you on some of your missions as well. Just try to ignore the awesome 9.5 rating we got…no really…don’t even look at it (pssst! We got a 9.5!).

With all this talk about the new Evolution System and the awesome reviews Patapon 2 is getting, I almost forgot to let you know that your PSP or PS3 can also be transmogrified into a much better PSP or PS3 by downloading the free new Patapon 2 Battleground theme available now on the PSN!

Patapon 2 Battlefield PS3 theme

That’s it for today, and next week we’ll celebrate the Cinco de Pata-yo!

Chris HM

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153 Comments

  • @97 Oh hey again.

    Considering context, I’d take it that was aimed at me, if not a large amount of it. Although you’d seem to be very confused if that’s so, because I support UMD/DD dual-release; preferring UMD myself, for various reasons. I’ll reword that for you: if you want DD I’m fine with that, I just want to have UMD so that I can actually play it.

    Stop trying to polarize this into whether DD-only or UMD-only would be better. All the name-calling that you’ve done shows that this is exactly what you’re attempting to do, and in the process you have overlooked just how paranoid you yourself are.

    But why don’t you try to open your eyes to the other side of the argument? You want UMD to be gone and done with simply because DD is better for YOU. Not EVERYONE. Coins have two sides, and there are benefits to BOTH UMD and DD. To think otherwise is to be extremely small-minded and petty.

  • @100

    No. Just no. I’d like to be able to actually play the game; and I thoroughly enjoyed the first game, and it still sits on my shelf. I keep my games, good or bad, and have never passed one along, or traded one in–as foreign as it may sound to you. Keep going with the assumptions though.

    The nearest broadband connection to me is over 500km away. I’m not going to travel well over 1000km back and forth to go to a mcdonalds of all places.

    My point is not that DD is bad–just that I don’t want it forced upon me. I have a legitimate requirement in needing a UMD to play the game.

  • Poopookakabumbum

    @99 and 100

    Not everyone is the same as you.

    Not everyone who wants a UMD is a Luddite.

    Not everyone who wants a UMD is scared of tech.

    Not everyone wants a UMD is paranoid.

    You need to shut your mouths and accept the fact that people have different opinions than yours.

    You are not right 100% of the time.

    DD is NOT the right answer for everyone.

    Accept it.

  • By the way, to all of those worrying about back-tracking with the PSP2, there are rumors of “UMD Rippers” at local video game stores. For example, if I have a UMD thati want to use on a PSP2 (which will not have UMD Drives), all I need to do is go to a local video game store and “rip it” (take data off one device and put it on another device), therefore having the game in digital format.
    I fully support the Digital Download migration (as I said in box #83), but I do understand some pro-choice users. Although, these pro-choice users need to get used to Digital Downloading, whether they like it or not…

  • Poopookakabumbum

    @104

    No, we don’t.

    Fight the system.

  • @104
    Not to get off topic, but if these UMD rippers do come to exist, do you really think Sony is just going to give away the chance to use one of these things for free? What about the stores that they have to pay to get these machines put into? Think they will graciously say “sure, you can take up valuable real estate for something which we get little, if any, return”?
    It’s a business. Sony, and every other company out there, is out to get your money. You will most likely pay, again, for something you already own.

    Back on topic – you would think that they would release Patapon 2 DD/UMD to get the most money possible.

  • Poopookakabumbum, feel free to contribute something to the conversation other than “OMG other people think different than u” and “OMG ur wrong.”

    I’ve destroyed every argument that people had for refusing to download, especially when they easily could. I’ve exposed them as uninformed trolls, hilariously out-of-touch hermits unwilling to adapt, and crazy kooks untrusting of Sony to keep their own games and servers up. And no one even addressed the fact that people angrily demanding PSOne releases every week aren’t demanding that they release the discs again – they want it digital!

    At least AnFangsEndes almost had a point, even though all he had to do was go to a McDonalds (or Starbucks, or a library, or an internet cafe, or…)

  • Ok, with it being launch day and all, why am I not playing the full version of this game yet? Why is it not on the store?

  • It’s out on the 7th.

  • @107
    There’s a difference with people wanting the PSOne games as digital – they are still making UMD based games. They are not currently producing more PSOne games.

  • @107 ‘Destroyed’ their arguments have you? Your superiority-complex is showing; you’re trying your damnedest to prove your opinion that DD is better for them–the problem being, that it’ll stay an opinion no matter how hard you try.

    Any point you’ve made towards an advantage DD has over UMD has also been countered by your belief that if given the choice someone should take DD over UMD, and thusly that everyone should get it on DD instead of UMD; except not everyone can get it if it’s DD-only. Something that you *clearly* have yet to think about, as you *assume* that everyone can download it.

    I could just as easily go on an insulting tirade about how UMD is better, and that everyone who doesn’t agree with me needs to be kept in a mental asylum; but in the end it’d still only be an opinion.

    [1]

  • As for PS1 games being released digitally: You’re really going to try and use such an irrelevant thing like that as a point for why PSP games shouldn’t be released on their standard format: UMD? Since when do PS1 games that can be played on both PS3 and PSP count as full-scale PSP releases like Patapon 2? Besides, if they were released on UMD you’d not be able to play them on PS3s. Can you play Patapon 2 on a PS3?

    The currently biggest problem with DD is that when it’s the sole means of release, many people are going to forced out of getting the game, due to variables, like internet coverage, or even having a computer. And thinking that they shouldn’t be allowed to even play the game because you don’t like a distribution medium is childish.

    If you want me to travel over 1000km back and forth to the nearest broadband access-point, I suggest that you give me the funding to do so. Just in case you don’t know how far that is, it’s roughly equivalent to over 600 miles.

    I would love to be able to play the game, but I can’t now. Unless of course, you were to, you know, give me the funding and means to travel over 1000km, triple_lei.

    [2]

  • I have a good reason why a UMD option is necessary. I’m a computer technician for a company that owns some pawn shops. Every time I have work to do at the pawn shops I see people who can’t afford Internet access. According to http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com there aren’t any hotspots within a reasonable distance, walking or driving, from any of our stores. I would set up our stores as hotspots, but apparently there’s too much interference from other electronics on display.

    You people here on the Internet don’t understand how good you have it. You also don’t seem to realize that the people who visit these forums represent a tiny fraction of Sony’s customer base. By going DD only, Sony is leaving behind a large portion of their loyal customers. Customers who will probably switch to Nintendo if they continue to produce cartridges for the DSi.
    I’m not afraid of the so called “future” but the prospect that entertainment will only be available to the privlaged makes me sad.

  • AnDangsEndes has many good points…

  • I would like to say something about these umd rippers your hearing about. Its not going to happen.

    First off sony wants to control the data and leaving it to the stores is not going to happen. What if you get a store that will take in used games and then turn around for an extra buck and for cheap cash rip a game for you and then dont report it to sony. things can get ugly.

    Look in order to have ppl play their old umd games, sony is just going to tell you to buy an older psp that can play the new DD games, and the old umd games. Later when you just go for the DD it would be your choice to get a umdless psp and move on.

    I have over 40 umd games and over 16 umd mivies, and i support DD. If sony comes up with a new umdless psp i will get it.

    And for you saying you dont like DD, if you can post here you can get a DD game. It might take you some time to get it if you have bad internet, but you can still get it, if you really want it.

  • @112

    What your local mall dont have free wifi? Are you saying that there is no wifi hotspot near you to download the game. or are you saying your to cheap to upgrade to better internet. Granted you might not control your internet and you might not be able to get better, but your posting here still means you can still get a download even if it takes all night to download the game.

    And since this is a test for sony it dont mean that all the games coming out will be only DD. i only know a few games that will be strictly DD and so far as i know the rest of the games will be DD and umd. so cool down.

    But if a person dont have internet or they have very bad internet, then i guess you should talk to your local goverment to get things upgraded soon. Or you will be left behind.

  • @113

    Then talk to the local goverment to put hotspots around the city for ppl to use. if its a small town and if it dont cost to much i think they will do it.

    Even the local park distric where i live put wifi hotspots in the local parks to let ppl hook up to the internet for free. It didnt cost much to have the routers near maint buildings and like some of the buidings scattered through out the zoo or other buildings like schools.

    There is always a way, even if the local businesses helpsed fund the prodject for the community. It dont hurt to ask the local goverment.

  • @116 & 117
    Public WiFi is a very idealistic and expensive proposition. It is not feasible to expect local governments to setup and manage free public WiFi access. This is especially true for municipalities with large wooded areas, significant agricultural investments, or terrain conditions that inhibit WiFi range.

    Even cellular networks have vast dead zones outside of major cities and highways. The revenue from remote service areas would not cover the cost to provide and maintain service in those areas.

    Plain and simple, you can’t expect everyone to live in major metropolitan areas where Broadband Internet and free WiFi hotspots are readily available. You can’t expect local or federal governments to spend millions of dollars to provide wireless internet anywhere hardline broadband isn’t already available. The benefit simply isn’t worth the cost.

  • Sorry to double post, but I thought I’d mention something else. My company owns some stores about an hour away from our main office. These stores are in a small town where it is impossible to get broadband service unless we’re willing to pay about $10,000 to have it run from the nearest network hub. We aren’t going to pay that kind of hookup fee.

    Our store furthest away has about 100 residential structures in the nearby community. You can’t expect home owners to pay about $1,000 each, plus whatever additional cost there would be to run cable from our relatively central location to each of their homes.

    Food for thought. You may be ready for DD, but most of the world beyond major cities is not. Can you really expect people to drive an hour to get to a hotspot when they have a Target or Wal-Mart within 10 minutes of home?

  • @118

    Im not expecting everyone to live in big metropolitan areas, im talking about the local goverment making a deal with the local isp and local businesses getting to gether and having wifi for ppl that would like to stick around and enjoy some free internet access wile having coffie at the local cafe/eatery/dinner.

    If my relitives way out in a little out of the way nowhere place can get a wifi hot spot alone the little strip mall store near them and they enjoy surfing the net when out for breakfast, that means your area can do it also. Oh and didnt you know that there is goverment grants that can help do this.

    Just talk to the local goverment or city councel and ask for it, all they can do is say no.

  • 120 continued

    The worse that the local goverment can say is no.

    Look you posting here says you have a connection, that means other ppl near you do also, it might take a long time to get a download, but you can still get a download. you can scream and shout all you want, but if sony drops the umd all together you ether live with it or move on.

    If you want better internet you should be complaining to your local goverment and tell them to bother the local isp to get things upgraded. Nothing happens till you do something. So if sony see’s the majority of the ppl saying they want the games as downloads and they move that direction, you ether adapt or move on. But then again if all the handhelds are moving in that direction you wont have much of a choice.

  • Sorry to triple post, but I decided to run a quick calculation on the download speed for a dial-up user. Here’s some hard numbers to show that dial-up isn’t feasible for DD.

    Assuming best line condition a dialup user would wait approximately 4 hours to download the 100MB Patapon 2 demo.

    Assuming the information someone reported about Patapon 2 being 382MB, it would take over 15.5 hours for dial-up users to download the game.

    Most people still on dial-up only have 1 phone line in their home. I can’t imagine anyone would want to tie up their home phone line for 4 hours, let alone 15 and a half.

  • @121
    You missed my point entirely. There are places in the world people are lucky to have basic phone service. No government or business in their right mind would fund any broadband endeavors in these areas even under the best economic conditions.

    Personally, I am fortunate to live close enough to a major city that I have broadband access. I am here to argue on behalf of people who do not have broadband access to the Internet and aren’t likely to make an appearance here.

  • @122

    If that speed is what they went with when getting internet, then that was they choice. They can always chose to upgrade and get faster internet or live with the time for downloads.

    You make it sound so bad, i wonder how long it would take for them to get all the os updates from microsoft (or from apple for the mac).

    Thing is you have to ask yourself, how many ppl that have a psp also have fast internet and how many dont have fast internet, and how many dont. If sony see’s that the majority of ppl have fast internet, who are they going to focus on? Yes they will focus on the ppl that have fast internet. For the rest i guess it will be an incentive for them to ether get better internet or ask the govement to improve things.

    If the industry as a whole is moving to downloads, then you ether adapt or get left behind.

  • @123

    If there is places in the world that barly have enough to get basic phone service, probably dont have enough to own a psp, dont you think?

    And like i said earlier, their are goverment grants that the local goverment can try and get to funds to ether improve the internet in your community or just get some wifi hotspots around local shopping areas.

    You just have to find out and ask.

  • @123 continued

    Now if a person was wealthy enough to live way out in the middle of nowhere to barely get phone service or even internet, then that was their choice to live way out in no where.

    If they want DD psp games bad enough they will find a way to get them.

  • @124
    Dial-up users don’t have a choice if it’s the only option available in their area. 56Kbps is the maximum speed a telephone modem is allowed to transmit by federal law. Sure there are some compression tricks that I didn’t calculate for, but they probably wouldn’t shave very much off the download times I mentioned.

    It would be nice if broadband were available everywhere, but it isn’t. The places where it isn’t probably wouldn’t produce enough revenue from it to justify the cost. If anything business are leaving such places and relocating where broadband is available instead of investing in the local infrastructure. I’d say people in these places probably don’t do OS updates much.

    I think DD only is a big mistake and the non-Internet ready audience is bigger than Sony thinks. Time will tell.

    Don’t get me wrong DD as an option is very forward thinking, but it should be an option rather than the only choice.

    I’ll go ahead and make a prediction, I think that first week sales of Patapon 2 are going to be lower than first week sales of the original Patapon.

  • @126
    I find when people say “out in the middle of no where” you can usually find farmland nearby. I wouldn’t call farmers wealthy. They might look good on paper, but the majority of their money is tied up in land and equipment. They might be able to afford a PSP, PC, dial-up, and whatnot but if broadband isn’t already available in their area it would be ridiculously expensive to hook up.
    Farmland isn’t a liquid asset, you can’t expect a farmer to just uproot and move to the city just so they can have access to broadband. Then what would they do for a living?

    You can’t fault people for living where they live or why they live there.

  • @Xastabus

    See this is where you should look at things from Sony’s point of view and see what they see.

    There is reports given by the goverment that shows the internet availablity (a nice report but is lacking in some parts). Then sony adds all the ppl that have hooked up to the PSN with their psp’s or PS3’s to download demos and games to get a report of how many users. And now add all the sales reports of the areas that the games are shipped to.

    Now add it all up, and sony knows more than you do. It means if the majority of the psp customers live in areas with fast internet and can afford to and are willing to get DD games, then sony will focus on those areas. If they see areas with low downloads due to internet problems they will focus on umd’s for that area for a wile untill umds are dropped. But this will depend on developers also. If the games sell better as downloads, they will deside to drop the umd.

    See companies have to make some hard choices sometimes and if sony desides to move on to downloads, you have to adapt or move on.

  • @127

    Funny how you say that many ppl in areas only have dls with only a 56k modem. I got a goverment report that says different. the report i have says by august of 2008 the majority of the areas in the US are between 768kbps-6mbps. and lets say only a small percentage like 1.3% are less, and about 10% are higher.

    Lets just say, ether the ppl will have to find a way to upgrade or they get left behind.

    Another thing i find funny here is the most ppl that complain the most have hacked psp’s and taking the umd away takes away their pirating fun.

  • @130
    Dial-up and DSL are not the same. Yes, DSL is a broadband technology that works on telephone lines, but it only works as long as your point of access is a certain distance from the CO. If you are beyond the range of DSL and can’t get cable, your only realistic option is Dial-up which is limited to 56Kbps.

    Maybe you’re right, maybe only %10 of customers live in these poorly covered areas. Of course, the other question is how many mainstream users are willing to put up with retail stores selling download cards for PSN. I don’t think that question can be answered on these forums as I would only expect to find dedicated gamers here, not average or recreational players.

    We’re sure to find out this week.

  • @130
    I don’t think people with hacked PSPs really have anything to worry about. Sony isn’t going to show up and raid my house just because I bought a game off PSN with a hacked PSP. Just because you’ve hacked your PSP doesn’t mean you’re a pirate. I may have hacked my PSP, but I’ve done so to experience the creativity of the Homebrew community. Sony has even recognized the talent displayed by homebrew creators by publishing No Gravity on PSN.

    Aside from Homebrew, I backup the UMDs I own to MS. I own a UMD of every game I play. I keep the UMDs to stay legal and encourage sales of new copies by keeping mine out of the secondary market. It’s easier to put a few games on MS than carry a case full of UMDs around. Plus there is no beating the shorter load times from having the game on MS instead of UMD.

    I’m not opposed to DD. Shorter load times and lower power consumption benefits everyone. I might eventually pickup Patapon 2 from PSN, but I prefer having a physical product for my $20 so I’ll wait to see how this little test plays out.

    Now if Sony guaranteed all games purchased on PSN would be supported on all future Sony consoles I might not be here complaining.

  • @131

    I said 1.3% where lower than the average and 10% was higher.

    As for right now the psn cards can be sold anywhere, Game stores might not like what sony is doing but sony dont like GS selling used games. Call it cat and mouse, But we know GS will still sell the goods because they know ppl will goto walmart or best buy to find games if ppl cant find the game at GS. But sony is still selling a case with a voucher code to keep stores happy for the moment.

    And as for the ppl that post here, we are just a small grp of ppl that chose to post here, there are alot of ppl that dont know of these blogs or forums or are to happy and just dont come here unless there is a problem.

  • @132

    Of corse they wont, but in this case you had to buy the download that you cant resell. see with a umd most hackers would just copy the game and then return the game. well with a download you just cant return it unless you find a really stupid clerk at a store that dont know better.

    I like that you hold onto games, but not all the hackes share your view on things. But as for DD you get the game and can back it up on your pc and if you accidently delete it or it gets corrupted you can redownload it for free. So whats the problem?

    Well if the games they sell now are backed up to be able to show now that you bought it on the psn and they let you redownload it if something happens i see no problem.

    Some have complained that sony over time will dump the game, but so far i havent seen them do it. I know they would take a game down if the download was corrupted, but will most likely put it back up when fixed. But time will tell and if enough ppl complain sony will make adjustments.

  • @133
    Sorry, 1.3%. Even if it was %10 I wouldn’t expect Sony to make concessions for %10 of their potential customers. On the other hand, government reports don’t tell the whole story. We won’t know more until Sony publishes the results of this test.

    From what I know of GameStop, they operate their stores on a shoestring budget as is. The margin they make on new games is barely enough to pay the electricity bill, or so I’ve been told by a friend who is a GS manager. The margin they make on resales is what really pays employee salaries, rent, and anything else.

    If the future of gameing is DD and resales of games become a thing of the past, GameStop’s physical locations will likely disappear quickly. Honestly, I can’t imagine the public at large going for media-less distribution unless the following two conditions are met; A) reduced price because it costs less to distribute a product without packaging and media, B) support on all future Sony systems because nothing sucks worse than having to buy the same game 3 times.
    Yes, I own 3 copies of Castlevania SotN. (PS, XBLA, PSP via Dracula X Chronicles)

    I’ll reply to 134 in a bit.

  • @135
    If you havent noticed alot of games or a bulk of content is mostly coming up as downloads. Have you noticed how Sony and its compeditors are moving to more games piped in over the internet. Lets just say in alot of areas the internet infrastructure has improved alot and will keep going.

    Some time in the next few years we will mostlikely have full HD 1080p movies in around 10 mins (and im not talking about the junky hd movies being shipped over the internet today, i mean the full on good HD movies). When that happens we will mostly find our games being sold as downloads more than from a game store.

  • @135 continued

    If sony had to make concessions for the limited number of ppl that dont have internet, they will, UMD’s will still be around for 5 more years just not with patapon 2 since its a test.

    See sony wants to slowly ween ppl off the umd, but if some of the game developers want to dump the umd then that is the developers choice, but sony will still sell umd’s with DD. its just if they feel DD do more in sales and the umds are slim then they will drop the umd.

  • @134
    I’ll concede that most people who hack their PSPs don’t share my values. I’ve tried to discuss this with some over at QJ.net, but that didn’t go very well.

    Sony has mentioned the PSP is a long term project and I hope the games available for download now will be compatible with future hardware. I am concerned about not having seen this in writing anywhere. The same can be said of XBLA. I am reluctant to purchase games there because there is no explicit guarantee my purchases will be supported on future hardware or that I won’t have to buy them again if they are. I would expect the purchase to be tied to my account and either future hardware would support the game or the game would be updated to run on future hardware, but that didn’t happen with the original Xbox Arcade. At least with physical media there is a possibility of legal emulation.

    It’s a fundamental problem. Technology must advance in order to improve our experiences, but in doing so legacy software becomes unsupported. I have a significant investment in my library of games going back to the NES. I would love to play these again, but I couldn’t possibly trade them in for what it would cost to download.

  • @138
    At this point, if the rumors come true for the next psp, we wont have to worry.

    If the next psp will have no umd drive we will have to make the choice to upgrade, but it is not said it wont work on the old psp’s ether since they even said that they would not leave current customers out in the cold with a dead handheld.

    Just think of this as sony moving to the next step with the psp, moving from umd to DD just like music did moving from cd’s to downloads.

    The new psp might get a touchscreen so the new psp might get something new that wont work on the old psp, but we will see.

  • im totaly for the download thing but playstation’s gona have to either suply sd memory cards for future downloadable games and/or gonna have to drop down the prices on downloadable games. its like the switch between cds and mp3s, only reason we all started to download music was cuz its cheaper (rather than pay $20 bux for the whole cd). why would we still payi 20 bux for a bunch of #s and an empty box? we (the consumers) should be given the option to download or buy the disk! i just bought the game cuz i loved the first 1 and it took for EVER to download! i love the concept of downloading but im not gonna pay $20 for an empty box next time! also, wat if the game sux? you cant trade in the code at any store! your stuck with a sucky game (any OTHER sucky game, patapon rox)!

  • PS…i think sony should dump the umd MOVIES, not the games! i think that having a disk is alot easier to share with friends rather than trading memory cards. in fact, i think that the download would take money away from sony in a way that the game could be downloaded into MULTIPLE memory cards from 1 purchase. the game is only restricted to 1 main download per coupon, its not restricted to memory cards. i personaly own 4 cards and they all have a copy of the game. if i chose to “sell” or “share” that game with my friends i can do so. like a personal game napster. i believe sony should get rid of the umd movies cuz you can download or burn movies into your computer then into a memory card (i used to watch adult movies on long bus trips). besides, have you seen the umd library lately? “be cool” “rv” and “are we there yet?”, please!

  • I agree. Downloads should cost less than a physical product and we should have a choice. MP3 and iTunes haven’t killed CDs, BestBuy still has a ton of them. DD may be the wave of the future, but I think there is still a considerable market for physical media. I hope the Patapon 2 test proves that.

    UMD music has an advantage as they can put the music videos on the disc. UMD movies are just garbage; no one wants to pay more for less content and (at least on PSP1000) no ability to play on a bigger screen. I think the PSP2000 video out came too little too late. This should have been on PSP1000 and the cables should have been included. Honestly, it doesn’t cost $20 to make those cables.

    I’m pretty sure they have a security measure to prevent the sharing of downloaded games. According to the terms and conditions I read when I signed up for PSN on my PSP, purchases are allowed to be downloaded by up to 5 PSP units registered to your account. It wasn’t clear whether you could play simultaneously or not. Anyone care to test if you can play 4 player Patapon 2 on a single purchase, (full game, not game sharing)?

    If that is possible, it would be the biggest advantage of going digital.

  • Correction:
    By sharing of downloaded game, I mean I’m sure they have a license key in the download to prevent you from playing the game on a PSP not registered to your account. It would be stupid of Sony to go DD only and let people produce unlimited copies of a game to resell.

  • I know what would be even better than DD. How about UMD to MS installation like the way Xbox 360 does. You would still need the UMD to play the game, but it would run off the MS.

    I’d like that a lot more than DD only releases.

  • @144

    so your saying you want the game to play on the MS but you still want to have the umd in the drive to still play the game…dont that defeat the purpose. DD are a way of just not having the umd at all.

  • Shadow_Raskolnik

    @145

    I think what he means is that the game is copied from the UMD to the MS, after which the player would be able to play the game without the UMD. This would allow the person to play off MS and still have a physical copy of the game which they actually own.

  • @146
    No he ment have the game on the ms but still have the umd in the drive for game recognition. kinda like play the game off the stick but keep the game in the drive to recognize you own the game.

    So like i said having the umd in the drive wile the game is played off the MS defeats the purpose.

    What i find funny in all this is why ppl say get a game ripper to put it on the MS, well just get the game as a download. See i know you want a physical copy of the game but downloads are just the same no matter how you look at it, its just that DD games from the psn are the hardcopy you cant sell or pass to a friend.

  • I like owning UMDs. Sure I’ll gripe about lugging them around, but MS cards are expensive and DD never feels like I actually own anything. An empty box with a download code would make me feel worse. I’m glad I didn’t pre-order Patapon 2 because of that.

    Downloads aren’t the same. There’s no disc. From what I understand the license is locked to up to 5 PSPs. What if my PSP breaks tomorrow? The download on my MS probably won’t work on the new PSP right out of the box. I’ll have to re-download it. Where’s the closest free WiFi? What if I’m out of town on a trip?

    Of course, all the points and counter points we are making here are pretty much moot. We are talking about stuff that’s way too technical for the average joe user. I know, I deal with them on a daily basis and I guarantee they outnumber us greatly. Their realm of technical expertise is, “I can plug it into the wall and it works.” Simple is better and there’s nothing simpler than putting a physical disc into a disc drive. This is why nearly 1/2 of the floor space at BestBuy is still occupied by isles and isles of CDs and DVDs. If everything said about going digital were true then BestBuy wouldn’t carry CDs and DVDs any more.

  • Hello chuck, after that question the guy asked about patapon 1 on PSN for PS3, how about asking japan studio to make a patapon game for the PS3?

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