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PlayStation Plus Update

PlayStation Plus Update: 12-24-2012

While we’re smack-dab in the middle of the holiday season, we thought we’d drop in and deliver some new content for PlayStation Plus members. Don’t forget that you still have time to make Plus a great stocking stuffer for the PlayStation gamers in your life. You can buy online, get the voucher code, and then give that voucher code to your friends and family.

Now, to business! Plus members will be getting the wonderfully hilarious 8-bit styling of Retro City Rampage free, as well as extra savings on the continuation of the PSN Holiday Sale.

Important note: We’ll be updating the PlayStation Store today (Monday, 12/24) due to the Christmas holiday. Therefore, this Plus update will be live later today when the update has published.

Don’t have PlayStation Plus? Go to the PlayStation Store on your PS3 or PS Vita or click here to get access.

December 24th PlayStation Plus Update

Retro City Rampage (PS3 and PS Vita)

Free for Plus members

Retro City Rampage pays tribute to games from days gone by, while adopting the open-world gameplay of modern day titles. Crafted by a small team led by Brian Provinciano, the game features an 8-bit art style, complete with amazing chiptunes. Since this a Cross-Buy game, this Plus deal is available for both PS3 and PS Vita Plus members. Check out all the great coverage from this game from the PlayStation Blog and find out why Joystiq.com called it “…the perfect game for gamers…”.
PSN Holiday Essentials Sale (Week 2)

Various discounts for Plus members

The PSN Holiday Essentials sale continues with great deals on a number of amazing titles. Titles that you might be interested include Journey, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, and many more. Take a look at the list below:

Game

Normal Price

PSN Sale Price

Plus Sale Price

Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty

$14.99

$10.49

$7.35

Galaga Legions DX

$9.99

$6.99

$4.90

Mortal Kombat

$29.99

$20.99

$14.70

Duke Nukem Forever

$19.99

$13.99

$9.80

Simpsons The Arcade Game

$9.99

$6.99

$4.90

Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational Vita

$17.99

$12.49

$8.74

Mafia II

$19.99

$13.99

$9.80

Killzone 3 Multiplayer

$14.99

$10.49

$7.35

Unit 13

$26.99

$18.49

$12.94

Journey

$14.99

$10.49

$7.35

Papo & Yo

$14.99

$10.49

$7.35

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection PS3

$39.99

$24.49

$17.14

Metal Gear Solid :3 Snake Eater – HD Edition PS3

$14.99

$10.49

$7.34

Starhawk

$39.99

$27.99

$19.60

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We’ll be back next week with more Plus goodness, but make sure you make your voice heard in the comments below, and also make sure to vote in the polls. Please remember that while we closely look at the results from polls, they are but one of many factors we use when deciding how we move forward or make any changes, if any are made. You can also delve into the PlayStation Community Forums in the PS Plus space to chat more about Plus, find other like-minded gamers, and make friends! Thanks, and see you in the comments.

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  • @295: Um, so you’ve seen ALL my comments on the PS Blog? On YouTube? On all the websites I visit? Only I see *EVERYTHING*. I didn’t say only I see what I type. smdh

    The sooner they drop the price of the OVERPRICED memory cards, the sooner more people will buy into the Vita. Because out of the box the Vita is useless. 4GB isn’t enough in a bundle if you plan to buy digitally, and most of their bundles come with digital downloads that won’t even fit on the 4GB. Especially the pathetic PS+ bundle.

    Sony isn’t Apple or Microsoft. They can’t get away with overpriced propriety memory cards. And charging $22 for the original LocoRoco when the sequels were only $8 each is bad business. God forbid I try to get Sony to fix their own pricing issues. And I waited a long time before ever saying anything, hoping they’d notice at some point. But nope.

    And I was called a fanboy, for arguing against terrible arguments made against Sony. Complaining once in my entire membership, since launch of PS+, is hardly worth noting. You just sound like a fanboy yourself. Mad that I dare to note that I don’t like this update. ): I’ve been happy, or content with every other one, but not liking one makes me evil.

  • I hope next time we get a better PS Vita game. RCR is very cool, but EU got Mortal Kombat. I think MK is way better than RCR.

  • as everyone said, very poor for a xmas update, and very poor update overall. most people get ps plus for the free games, not the discounts.

  • Don’t get your hopes up we’re getting nba jam next week on ps plus

  • Happy Holiday all.

    A few temping games to buy for the Vita. I wanted to play Retro City so thanks for that. It might not be for everybody, but I’m glad I got to experience the game.

    On travel so I can’t grab the PS3 version. Now is when I was Sony got the webstore up and working. :(

    And before we start with the remote play, I know it is my fault for not setting it up before I left.

  • Totally disappointed, why you guys don’t look at the results of the your own poll? the last months “Nothing for me this week” has been the winner, if you don’t care about the votes why do you guys put a poll in the first place?

  • These sales and free PS+ games are really starting to burn me, since I have already bought almost all the games at full price before. And the PSN credit sales in October and November burned me too (spend $XXX.XX or more get $XX.XX credit next month). Hopefully this gets sorted out soon. If you buy a game full price early within the launch window, you’re about to get burned with these sales and PS+ a couple weeks later! I’m not buying anything from the sale because it will probably be free later on in PS+. I’m taking a break from spending on PSN, I’ve been burned enough the past 3 months of this year!

  • Went to the store to buy retro city and saw it was Free! Awesome. Instead I bough metal gear and playstation all stars good update can’t wait to see what’s next week.

  • Will we ever get ps2 classics on vita? There are some ps2 games like final fantasy and GTA that i would love on vita.

  • @301, TwinDad, not to worry, the remote play no longer works with the store anyway. Stopped working with the new store design, yet another aspect of the redesign that’s less consumer friendly.

  • @Elvick

    First of all, I’m not mad. Second, I never implied you were evil. Third, your comment: “I didn’t say only I see what I type. smdh” is wrong. Actually, that’s exactly what you said. It’s sitting right there. Scroll up. Whatever, who cares…

    But you clearly don’t know how business works. Sony can’t drop prices on the memory cards until THEY’RE ABLE TO. There’s a little thing in business called “the bottom line” that needs to be toed with extreme care. It’s a very sensitive area that if not handled precisely, would lead to the demise of the company. I won’t go into the details of finances here, and the way costs and profits are interchanged because there’s not enough space, but I promise you, Sony is not purposely inflating the prices of the memory cards to rip people off. There are costs that need to be covered. The price will drop when it can be dropped. You can take it or leave it, or as you like to say, “deal”. I don’t understand why you brought Microsoft and Apple into this. Totally irrelevant.

  • @Elvick

    4GB is plenty of space if you play one game at a time, delete, download another. And that’s only for the “big” games. Most Vita games are MUCH smaller, and you can fit multiple games on one 4GB card. And you know it. It’s not a problem.

    The Loco Roco thing… you never know what happened there. It’s not that they just left it alone and it went unnoticed, there could be all kinds of contractual, legal, etc. issues involved that they’re obviously not going to discuss, but again, they’ll always lower prices on their products when they’re able to (and they always have!), because they know that lower prices = more sales, more customers, and even MORE PROFITS. That’s exactly what every company wants. Just because the sequels were cheaper doesn’t necessarily mean the original game will follow suit. It’s happened in the past with other franchises for various reasons.

    I’m not a “fanboy”, nor do I work for Sony as some people like to think… I’m just trying to help people understand.

  • @jolmash

    Heh… you’re reading the poll wrong, genius.

    Only 39% voted for “nothing for me this week”.

    The other two combined make up 61%. That’s 61% that voted AGAINST saying “nothing for me this week”. It doesn’t matter whether they voted for RCR or the Holiday Sale, it’s still 61% that found something to like about this update.

    61% > 39%

    So, even on this blog, where the majority of ungrateful whiners congregate to magnify their petty complaints, they’re STILL outnumbered by those who are satisfied. Ha ha…

  • made us wait for vita games and we didnt get anything

  • I have always been with PSN+ concerning the games given out but this is CHRISTMAS! The one time you would think they would knock it out of the park and wow everyone only to get RCR? I mean really?

  • The post says that the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection PS3 is discounted, but on the store, only the Vita MGS HD collection is discounted. Is that an error or is it a problem with the store?

  • make a discount on corpse party please XD

  • I have a strange feeling that Twisted Metal will become free on PS+ some time in the future.

  • @sprice25

    You are missing the whole point of having a PS+ subscription, you are NOT SUPPOSED to buy any game at full price, you either wait for the game to get on sale or become free altogether, but buying the game at launch is not wise, you could just cancel your subscription altogether and it won’t make a difference either way.

  • Retro city……………………………..I was disappointed…….
    mortal kombat & Unit13 plz….

  • @PrimeroIncognito – “DonkeyDungSwilla” how old are you like ten? not even worth my time to argue with, grow up first.

  • @Hoolla7 – you really didnt ask for another arcade fighting game, they came out with like 8 in the last few months it gets old.

  • @jolmash – forget what that guy says, i wouldn’t even take the time to read it, but the polls are doing justice but as Morgan said before in a few posts ago, the process getting the feedback to the store team is a slow process.

  • @Morgan –

    “Morgan Haro on December 24th, 2012 at 11:34 am said:
    There’s another update next Monday as well, but I’m not sure what statements you’re referring to where I hyped up some sort of ‘mind-blowing’ update this month. I only ever mentioned that we’ll have more on the way next week (as is the case every week)”

    really Morgan? you never stated in before posts that it WILL be good on comments? I’ve seen it and commented and quoted on it. if this what passes for good around here. hmph. Don’t get me wrong the discounts look good but doesn’t do me justice when I’m tapped out… Also RCR, I looked at the picture up top, can’t even tell that’s a delorean. I don’t have a HDTV to play these low resolution really low resolution games like this, 480 is fine but I couldn’t even tell it was a person walking in this game or what when i started the game.

  • @PrimeroIncognito – i think its funny that you use the $4.17 a month thing, we don’t pay 4.17 to get it for the month we have to pay more even if we want to keep the games we do like so in all it could come out to hurt us more… Also go look at some of Morgan’s comments, you sit here talk about people whining and complaining blah blah blah blah blah, who cares what you think about it honestly, the whole point of this blog is to help Plus improve if it wasn’t it’d just be a weekly update with no poll or comment section, there wouldn’t be a point to it. In your opinion a real gamer constitutes as someone who was playing before it became real “mainstream” when would that exactly be. The whole point of Plus I honestly believe is to help the lower income people get more out of their gaming, I’ve owned all of the PS’ really could never buy a game only had a couple at a time and rented from blockbuster and that was it. I didn’t have the luxury to have everything ASAP but for you to call anyone not a gamer or spoiled because they want more bang for their buck during this time of recession then you need to honestly get over yourself really.

  • (continued)

    If that’s not enough to shut you up about people complaining maybe this will, Straight from Morgan

    “-Morgan Haro on December 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am said:
    We’re always looking at how to improve Plus; but just like any major choice that you would make (let’s say, buying a car) there are a number of factors you’d need to look at. So it’s the same way to how we take in feedback on Plus; polls are a strong piece of data from this section of the community that we use when reviewing the big picture, but they’re not THE big picture. Just want to be upfront with how the polls are used, that’s all. Hope that makes sense! =)”

    Share some enlightenment your way because we want to improve Plus. It doesn’t make anyone spoiled to want to improve, if that’s the case there wouldn’t be 3D tv’s or HDTV’s or another system coming out. We might not know what exactly they have to do to improve it but if they didn’t want us to want to build upon it, we wouldn’t even have a blog.

  • @PrimeroIncognito
    “Oh no, it’s the old “you’re not even a Plus subscriber” excuse…”

    I like how you just pick one aspect of what I wrote. I’ll ask again since you seem to be a bit slow, Do you have nothing better to do than to come here every week to troll this forum? I’ve checked your profile, you obviously have skills so what do you get out of coming here? you’re reasoning makes sense for why you aren’t a subscriber, but that doesn’t explain why you are here every week. What do you get out of it? Last I checked there isn’t a plat for trolling, lol.

    and yes, I did get it under control. I subscribed to the EU plus. If I don’t see an improvement in the by the time my sub expires in Feb I will discontinue my US plus subscription.

  • Good lord, how long is this going to go on for…

    You guys are too dense to realize you’ve already been defeated… and not by me. You defeated yourselves with your dead-end arguments. I know you think you’re making points, but you’re really not.

    @DonkeyBallsFeela

    1. Your complaining to Morgan about RCR’s resolution doesn’t make a lick of sense. What does he have to do with that? It’s a good game anyway, you just can’t get with it. That’s all there is to it.

    2. You don’t give constructive criticism. There’s no good feedback from you. Look at the crap you type. The game “needs to be burned alive” and all that… putting about 15 Os in “wow”… dude, it’s just stupid. That doesn’t help the team improve Plus at all. I promise you, they’ve never taken your comments seriously. Such as: “Hey, this guy put like, 15 Os in wow. And he says RCR should be a mini even though minis don’t have leaderboards and trophies. Yeah, he’s completely clueless, but still, let’s take his ideas to the top!”

  • I wanted to Final Fantasy Dissidia in the psn plus.. great game for VITA…

  • PS: Dissidia 012..

  • @wascally wabbit

    First of all, I’m not trolling. I express myself honestly, state my points explicitly, and debate properly, PROVING how my adversaries are in the wrong. Just because you don’t like to be wrong, doesn’t mean I’m trolling.

    I already explained numerous times why I come back here. But, just for you, since you’re special, I’ll explain it once more.

    The point of my visits to the blog initially were all about discussing GAMES with my fellow GAMERS. That’s all there was to it. Unfortunately, this place became infected by snobby, greedy, selfish know-it-all brats who showed up to criticize EVERY LITTLE THING that isn’t even worth mentioning, making mountains out of molehills, arrogantly claiming that they are being “ripped off” even though that’s the furthest thing from the truth, disrespecting the blog staff (especially Grace, and more recently, Morgan) questioning their integrity, insulting their intelligence, and demanding that they be FIRED… all this, simply for the sake of ruining the fun atmosphere. I don’t appreciate that. THEY ARE THE TROLLS, not I.

  • @wascally wabbit (cont.)

    I’m doing what I can to help turn the tide of hatred back in the other direction because it doesn’t belong in a place where the point is to have fun and discuss a simple hobby. I’m letting the troublemakers know that they are not welcome here. And I’ll continue to do so until they get the point.

    Constructive criticism is cool, helpful, and most definitely welcome. But can you honestly say that’s what you’re seeing here? Sometimes yes, but most of the time it’s nothing but pointless attacks that only serve to stroke the ego of the bonehead who posted it. It’s disruptive, it’s tacky, and the worst part is, it brings down the morale of the community as a whole. It makes us all look bad. It even makes some of us feel bad.

    If Morgan, Grace, or someone else from the blog thinks that this is unnecessary and they ask me to stop doing what I’m doing, I’d wonder why of course, because the trolls will see it as an invitation to accelerate their trolling and ruin this blog further, but I’d still honor their request because they run this site, and unlike most of you I actually respect them and appreciate the work they do.

  • crappy games this month, bioshock 2 is the only one that i like.

  • @DonkeyDong Re: your posts –

    “Don’t get me wrong the discounts look good but doesn’t do me justice when I’m tapped out”

    It’s not Morgan’s fault you’re tapped out, now is it?

    “I couldn’t even tell it was a person walking in this game or what when i started the game”

    I could. Looks like an 8-bit NES game. AS IT’S SUPPOSED TO. Did you not know that was the creator’s intention? See, you’re exaggerating to make it seem worse than it is. That’s not constructive criticism, that’s trolling.

    “to call anyone spoiled because they want more bang for their buck”

    I don’t see that. I see ENDLESS pouting. It’s never good enough for you. You’re not spoiled because you’re looking for value (if that was the case, you’d be happy, because the value is blatantly apparent), you’re spoiled because you whine and cry that big evil Sony didn’t read your mind and match exactly what’s on your wish list. Well then, don’t let them choose for you! BUY what YOU WANT, and accept the Plus offerings as is. Don’t like Plus? That’s OK! Just don’t subscribe anymore! Simple!

  • “In your opinion a real gamer constitutes as someone who was playing before it became real “mainstream” when would that exactly be.”

    I never meant to imply that real gamers are only veteran gamers like me. I’m well aware there are plenty of real gamers these days in their teens and even younger. Real gamers have a genuine love for the medium of interactive art. They support the industry, they look for ways to contribute to it (rather than tear it down, like you) and they’re fascinated by what the future will bring, among other attributes…

    As far as when it became “mainstream”, well, of course it’s an estimation, but I’d have to peg it sometime around the end of the PS1/N64 era, and the beginning of the PS2/XBox/GC era… seems like that’s when it really took off. GTA 3 of course, contributed to much of the boom, the steady prevalence of sports games eventually reeled in the meatheads, increased realism made games more interesting to passers-by catching a glimpse. In general, there was a massive increase in public interest in video games from folks who in the past would be disinterested in such a hobby, and previously referred to gamers as “geeks” or “nerds”.

  • mortal combat and fifa13 please.. happy holidays morgan!

  • @PrimeroIncognito

    “Constructive criticism is cool, helpful, and most definitely welcome. But can you honestly say that’s what you’re seeing here?”
    Not all of them but mostly people are genuinely upset with the direction the service had taken. That’s that I have done and yet for all that you still lump me in with them even though I have never said anything disrespectful to Grace or Morgan.

    “If Morgan, Grace, or someone else from the blog thinks that this is unnecessary and they ask me to stop doing what I’m doing”

    You’ll also note that they haven’t asked anyone else to stop either so apparently their arguments are just as welcome & valid as yours are. You’re the only one who seems to have enough of a problem with it to come back week after week to complain, that includes Grace & Morgan

    “@wascally wabbit”

    I use your name properly you can show me the same respect. otherwise, all you are doing is proving that you are a troll

  • @PrimeroIncognito
    A. It’s negative feedback no matter what I said that’s how’d they view it.
    B. Your only contribution to these blog posts is to try to look smart with legal processes, tell everyone that isn’t satisfied they aren’t real gamers and posers when the isn’t one real answer to constitute what being a gamer means.
    C. You try to hold water on the excuse it’s ONLY 4.17 A MONTH AVERAGE.
    D. YOU DO IT EVERY UPDATE SO YOU FEEL RELIEVENT IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

    Sorry but you are a arrogant Jackass to say the least.

  • @PrimeroIncognito – I never once said I was planning on tearing down the company, LOL. But seriously though I highly doubt that there’s one person on this planet that would agree with getting a downgrade is better unless that person is you just to disagree, hell they even made Pac-man in good resolution quality. Hell they even upgraded bomberman. This game doesn’t interest me one bit, I’m suddenly a poser now b/c I believe they could make better decisions? Those games were fine back then, but now is the process of the new era of HD. So yeah I’m not going to be happy when this low quality bottom of the barrel stuff comes out like every update.

  • @PrimeroIncognito – Yeah you wine a lot too. Your here every week just to find people to troll onto. I never stated anything to be Morgan’s fault only when he suggested it was going to be good then blam, nope. When you see that maybe you’d think to it might actually be more of a retail type of game. Yes I seen it’s a parody game. I see its 8-bit. I never argued about the details only why on earth would they would put it here. When there is many more they could do that would be a way better selection. if it’s that good it would of at least grabbed more than 50% of the vote or at least THE TOP CHOICE.

  • @death_by_wabbit – Agreed
    Also I doubt its even a adult we’re arguing with, with the excessive name calling. That’s not even clever at that.

  • @ wabbit

    “mostly people are genuinely upset with the direction the service had taken”

    You mean, away from a free mini, avatar, and a PSOne classic here and there, and instead steered towards a large collection of top tier PS3/PSN games? Yeah, I totally see the problem… not. It’s not like people need avatars and minis to be free. They’re so cheap you can easily buy whatever ones you want without breaking the bank. PlayStation Plus clearly has more value now than before. Core episodes weren’t worth anything unless you were in love with Veronica, and if that’s the case, I’m sure you can still see her all over YouTube.

    “you still lump me in with them even though I have never said anything disrespectful to Grace or Morgan”

    I never said YOU were disrespectful to Grace or Morgan. Do you have a persecution complex? I would have said YOU DID, if you did. Notice how I said “THEY”… “THEY”… and “THEY”… over and over again.

  • “they haven’t asked anyone else to stop either so apparently their arguments are just as welcome & valid as yours are”

    That’s because technically, you’re not violating the ToS. That doesn’t necessarily mean you’re in the right, or that your complaining isn’t taking a toll on our cohesiveness as a community. I’m not violating the ToS either. The only reason I even said I would stop if they asked me to is because I know how all this back and forth can get tiring, and they might decide they’d rather not have it on their blog.

    “I use your name properly you can show me the same respect.”

    Heh… sorry, pal. Honestly, you lost my respect shortly after the first time we spoke. And don’t pull that innocent crap. You’ve been condescending to me as well, so don’t act like I’m bullying you. Remember, your own words were, “I’d have to respect you first”. How suddenly you change. Nothing wrong with saying “wascally wabbit” anyway. How is that disrespectful? I’m pretty sure you now what I’m referencing… isn’t that exactly where you got your username from? I’m assuming it is.

  • @DonkeyBungDrilla

    To answer your lettered comments…

    A. There’s a way to be constructive with criticism. It’s all about the approach. I guess you haven’t figured it out yet. And don’t even think of turning it around on me. The reason I’m not constructive with my criticism of you is because you lost my respect already. However, Morgan and the blog team have never been rude to you, so you should be more respectful towards them.

    B. I’m not “trying” to look smart… umm… I’ll let you figure that one out. And I did give a definition of what a real gamer is. I guess you didn’t read that part?

    C. But it really is $4.17 per month. That’s a valid argument BECAUSE IT’S TRUE. Where’s the problem?

    D. Because YOU and your kind do this crap every update. I wouldn’t if you didn’t.

  • @Donkey (cont.)

    “I never once said I was planning on tearing down the company”

    And I never said that you said that. Comprehension problem? It’s your relentless criticizing of the company that reveals your inclination towards tearing down the industry. You never contribute. The proof is in the pudding. You’re always attacking every decision they make. Bail out if you don’t like it. No one’s holding you here.

  • AND… you’re obviously not understanding the point of RCR. It’s one massive tribute to the Golden Age of gaming. With sarcastic 80s references galore, and gorgeous chip tunes, but designed around modern mechanics. It was never meant to look like a game from 2012.

    Pac-Man and Bomberman were re-done in HD because that’s WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANTED TO DO with those games.

    RCR is PURPOSELY presented in 8-bit glory. For 8-bit fans. PLANNED. To trigger nostalgia. MEANT TO BE. To honor gaming’s past. DELIBERATELY. THAT’S JUST WHAT IT IS. You’re confused about resolution too, because the game actually does run in 720p, if I recall correctly. There were no Progressive Scan TVs back in the 80s. The game offers filters to simulate various classic monitors, which actually is part of the charm of the project. It’s not an indication of laziness like you may think, and in fact, Brian Provinciano poured so much heart and soul into this game, “lazy” is the last thing you could call it.

  • @Prime I don’t care for your respect honestly, I don’t care to see your views on me, I simply was writing to Morgan about the teams choice, I don’t care about the purpose of this game, this game obviously was a bad choice to go with and let the facts be followed sense you loved pointing this out. 65% of the the people that voted said they didn’t like it. SIXTY-FIVE PERCENTILE DIDN’T PICK THIS AS THE BEST FOR THE WEEK. Also I never said that you said that I was, I was stating and in anything I said how is one comment tearing down the company, I have had thousands of dollars and thousands of game hours invested in Sony. Yeah it’s 4.17 a month, um okay whats your point? if the choices they pick don’t fill up for the whole year, it was honestly a waste no matter how you put it. Hold up though, you. My kind? My kind? Go back re-look each post back til October then tell me what you think you ignoramus.

  • (Continued)
    Your like the old man on the side of the street holding a sign saying the world is going to end or something. Exactly and what happened it MADE THOSE TWO GAMES BETTER TO PLAY ON DUH. I loved the classic bomberman but the new one was an improvement. That’s what we like to see. Not this 8-bit crap. That’s what I’m saying. You act like your doing justice, but really you just sound like a broken record.

  • @Prime – In your own logic, these people your trying to blast on here never said anything to you first but you disrespect them time and time again. Practice what you preach.

  • @prime – how was I even rude to Morgan and the team? If anything I was rude to this games developer and I will not deny that one bit. But I simply just stated how strong I felt about it being a bad choice by picking this. That’s my opinion of this game. I doubt I stand alone on that one. It doesn’t matter about the respect of art and such, there is a such thing as a bad game. In my opinion this was. Maybe if it was back in the 90’s I would of been fine with it, but not now, no.

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